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#121307 - 12/17/06 01:28 PM
Re: Kiewel Working Dogs International-PROBLEMS
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Angelique Cadogan
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Sorry for your mess, unfortunely it is so common.I will never understand those kennels.They have no concept of what makes a successful business, honesty and referrals.
I hope your female works out for you.As for your male he is better off in your hands then theirs but it's sad it had to be at a high cost.
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#121324 - 12/17/06 07:05 PM
Re: Kiewel Working Dogs International-PROBLEMS
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Michael Cook
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This post has been deleted by Ed Frawley after recieving the following email from David Kiewel- people will have to determine for themseleves if they care to do business with Mr Kiewel.
Hello Mr. Frawley,
As you may or may not be aware , I am currently pursuing legal action against several individuals which have time and time again tried to damage me, my business, and reputation. I am writing you this email in good faith to merely inform you that we will be taking legal action against Groupee, Inc. as well, for hosting and publishing libelous, defamatory, and damaging content, on your public discussion forum. To give you the opportunity to avoid reimbursement to Groupee, Inc. for all related damages, legal expenses, etc. that arise out of this suit, as I understand is outlined in their License Agreement. I would like to personally extend the opportunity to you to avoid such hassle by removing anything that has my name, or is associated with me or my business immediately from your discussion board.
Please realize that there are two sides to every story, and your discussion board is not the proper forum or venue for peoples personal vendettas and untruths - that sir, is the purpose of legal venues in place in our civilized society to remedy such claims. With that said, I appreciate and respect your dedication and the work you've done for the working dog community, and wish you luck in the future.
If you have any questions, please feel free email me personally.
Sincerely,
David Kiewel
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#121369 - 12/18/06 12:33 PM
Re: Kiewel Working Dogs International-PROBLEMS
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Doug Wendling
Registered: 09/02/01
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Check this out http://www.malinois.com/otvitosha/index.html
I am amazed that these guys stay in business, but then again the Internet and a web site has made a lot of low life's tons of money.
Doug
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#121386 - 12/18/06 03:31 PM
Re: Kiewel Working Dogs International-PROBLEMS
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Will Rambeau
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Steve,
I've said this in over 20 previous posts, but it's worth repeating here - take an experienced helper/decoy to test any dog that you're thinking of buying. If a vendor refuses to allow your decoy to test their dog, they're hiding something, pure and simple.
If more new people would take this advice, they'd be much more likely to get the kind of dog that they were looking for, and they wouldn't have to fool themselves with "oh yeah, my dogs tough as nails" and then be standing there with their mouth hanging opening when their dog wouldn't engage the helper or decoy on trial day.
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#121937 - 12/22/06 09:59 PM
Re: Kiewel Working Dogs International-PROBLEMS
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Michael Cook
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This Post has been deleted by Ed Fralwey after getting the following emial - potenital customer need to make up their own mind if they care to deal with Mt Kiewel:
Hello Mr . Frawley,
As you may or may not be aware , I am currently pursuing legal action against several individuals which have time and time again tried to damage me, my business, and reputation. I am writing you this email in good faith to merely inform you that we will be taking legal action against Groupee, Inc. as well, for hosting and publishing libelous, defamatory, and damaging content, on your public discussion forum. To give you the opportunity to avoid reimbursement to Groupee, Inc. for all related damages, legal expenses, etc. that arise out of this suit, as I understand is outlined in their License Agreement. I would like to personally extend the opportunity to you to avoid such hassle by removing anything that has my name, or is associated with me or my business immediately from your discussion board.
Please realize that there are two sides to every story, and your discussion board is not the proper forum or venue for peoples personal vendettas and untruths - that sir, is the purpose of legal venues in place in our civilized society to remedy such claims. With that said, I appreciate and respect your dedication and the work you've done for the working dog community, and wish you luck in the future.
If you have any questions, please feel free email me personally.
Sincerely,
David Kiewel
Edited by Ed Frawley (11/18/09 05:06 PM)
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#253363 - 09/24/09 10:22 AM
Re: Kiewel Working Dogs International-PROBLEMS
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Tammy Dempsey
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Hey Folks, well apparently my website post is still having an impact on the Kiewels four years after the fact! I typed Kiewel working dogs into google and my page was the first listed... which is good, but also bad... since I just received notice that they are suing me! 
So.... anyone care to email me privately with their experience with or contacts who've had experience with them??? In a Libel case, the truth can be a defense, however it has to be proven. I had plenty of emails and phone calls after this all hit the fan, however my hard drive on my business computer crashed and I lost all my emails.
If you can/will help, please email me at ourpassion@leidenschaftkennels.ca
Thanks in advance!
Tammy
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