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#169102 - 12/17/07 11:12 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Elaine Matthys]
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The pager mode is a vibrating mode versus a stimulation mode. It's found on certain collars - the collar info will say if it's equipped with a pager mode. Some people use it, some don't. Some use it to get their dog's attention (this would have to be taught). It's not a correction like the stimulation button would give.

A 2 dog collar can either have or not have the pager mode, and is for people who have 2 or more dogs and want the handheld transmitter when training/correcting 2 dogs at the same time.
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#169103 - 12/17/07 11:13 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Elaine Matthys]
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I should not have put them in the same sentance

The pager gives you the added option of having the pager vibrate instead of deliver an electical stimulation. Some folks like that feature for other uses.

A two dog model has two collars/recievers and one transmitter. You can toggle back and forth. You are probably not going to be working two dogs at the same time but you may not want to have to keep taking a collar on and off and switching it between two dogs.

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#169104 - 12/17/07 11:16 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Nancy Jocoy]
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This is too funny - Did this on another thread --(responded while someone else was responding)
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#169106 - 12/17/07 11:21 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Nancy Jocoy]
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Extra info is always good
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#169110 - 12/17/07 11:27 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Sandy Moore]
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I just want to add that I called Dogtra to ask about stem levels between the smaller 175 and 200 models and the larger models. They told me that the larger models have a 30% power boost relative to the smaller units. So, if you had both units set to 45, the larger model would have a more powerful stem than the smaller unit.
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#169122 - 12/17/07 12:12 PM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Rick Miller]
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What is a nick and a constant stimulation?

I also foster Aussies and I just called and asked if they would mind if I used an e-collar on the fosters when needed to stop fence fighting, and they were ok with it, so I am also going to be looking at the 2 dog models.

I was looking at the Dogtra 200 and 1500 and the 200 seems smaller, which would be good, and it has 1/2" prongs. My boy doesn't seem to need harsh corrections at this time, but I don't know what he would need to stop the fence fighting. Do you really notice the difference in power between the two and are the 1/2" prongs the size I would need for my GSD and an Aussie?
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#169185 - 12/17/07 01:57 PM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Elaine Matthys]
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A nick is a split second "zap". A constant stimulation works by holding down the constant button and keeps zapping the dog. I never use it (well, once I did), but would if I absolutely had to.
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#169198 - 12/17/07 02:20 PM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Sandy Moore]
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Listen, You don't want to get an ecollar put it on the dog and start zapping when the dog starts fence chasing. There is a lot of foundation work and different schools of thought about how to use them.
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#176392 - 01/20/08 08:48 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Nancy Jocoy]
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I have the barking puppy from hell, are these e-collars the same thing as "bark collars?" Or if you wanted to leave the house, would you have to put on a different collar to stop the barking while you're gone.

My puppy is only 10 weeks old, too young I know, I thought I would have to wait a year, but then I saw this from Ed, "We start puppies as young as 16 to 20 weeks of age with low level training and this work never stops." So I guess I need to start with ordering the video.

Does anyone know if the video covers puppies?

My pups problem is standing outside the back door and screaming, and waking my son up EVERY DAY screaming inside her crate. My dogs have always outgrown this, but I fear this one is different....she is a terrier in every sense of the word.

Not sure how much longer I can take it, I don't want to end up on the evening news....

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#176396 - 01/20/08 09:10 AM Re: help picking out an e-collar [Re: Vanessa Dibernar]
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Bark Limiter

Above is the bark collar LB sells and from what I hear they work really well.
I use a Dogtra but am going to be picking one of these up at LB when I go there next week.

I have tried the less inexpensive collars and they just do not seem to work that well. I think if you really need or want a collar bark or electric, you need to go ahead and make the investment. Otherwise, you will end up (like me) with a plethora of collars and only use the good ones. ;\)

To answer your question, yes, you need a bark collar on the dog for the times you are not there to correct.

I do not turn my bark collars on anymore usually since the dog(s) know that when the collar is on, it means be quiet. And I use mine when I am home or when I have two that are in the kennels that bark at each other. If one does not start it then they do not bark at each other......the brats.

This DVD will help A LOT:

Establishing Pack Sturcture with the Family Pet

And also check out the articles, e-books and podcasts page if you have not already. There is some great info there as well.
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