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#194909 - 05/14/08 07:34 PM Circular Vs Linear drive building. ****
Matthew Thurston
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My 7 month old dog, pictured below, has pretty good prey drive. He drive is strongest when I throw a ball. He chases it as hard as he can untill he passes it up because he cant stop in enough time, then goes back to it and picks it up or just stands over it because it stopped moving so what does he care. When I try to build drive in a circle like the DVD shows, sometimes he will work hard for it, and somtimes he could care less. So I guess my questions are: Is it imperitive that I build drive in a circle? And what can I do to get him to want to chase it in a circle more?
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#194912 - 05/14/08 07:53 PM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: Matthew Thurston]
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You can try attaching the ball to a buggie whip. It shows an example of this in the DVD
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#194915 - 05/14/08 08:00 PM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: Jason Sidener]
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Yeah, I have done that and it seems to work pretty well but I've been trying to wean him off of that.
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#194916 - 05/14/08 08:00 PM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: Matthew Thurston]
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One thing that I will share from my experience with drive building, is that when you are constantly throwing the ball away from you. Seems like a given, but part of the exercise is that the dog wants to tug/play/engage with YOU. By throwing it away, you are making the fun and reward go away from you.

Also, all of that running is going to make the dog tired. This can very quickly diminish the drive that you are trying to develop!

I don’t move fast enough to really engage my dog, so I may throw a ball a few times a short distance to bring him up, but I am constantly yelled at for it when at the club… Sad thing is, all my training director has to do is pick up the tug or ball and he goes crazy! Stupid, unfaithful dog! At least I know where I stand!
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#194918 - 05/14/08 08:04 PM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: JessicaKromer]
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Thanks for bringing that up. That's a good point I never really thought of before. But it is what I would rather do, he just seems to go crazy when I throw it though.
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#194922 - 05/14/08 08:32 PM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: Matthew Thurston]
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Do you have a string or rope on it? How long? Maybe for a while ad a little length to it to give the ball more movement, and then shorten it a little at a time.

I would also try giving more bites. I was told that my boy needs to get more bite satisfaction than I was allowing in order to keep him interested. He would go all out, not get a bite, and then sit there and say, “Fine, I’ll wait…”


Does he bark for a bite yet? Barking tends to build a little drive/excitement as well. Add a grip for a good couple of barks, and/or then go into some misses.

Have you tried a tug? Some dogs like them more… Easier to really bite and tug. Or different ball with a string? Some like a squishier ball, some a more firm ball…
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#194948 - 05/15/08 03:16 AM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: Matthew Thurston]
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Obviously the dog has drive, and if you only develop it in the area that he is already strongest then the weak area will continue to stay weak.

You need to work on increasing his "circular drive" as you put it, since obviously his linear drive is already pretty good.

If the dog was totally disinterested I would just say do what works and brings the dog out, but that doesn't apply here from what you wrote.
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#195023 - 05/15/08 12:53 PM Re: Circular Vs Linear drive building. [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood]
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He likes a tug just as much as a ball on a string, I have been using a tug more, so as to develope his grip. He likes a fuzzy ball a little better than a smooth one. The only times he barks are when he thinks he hears the gate I open to get to the backyard and he thinks I coming to let him out, or if there is another dog near by he really wants to play with it and so he will bark then as well.
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