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#254872 - 10/17/09 11:33 AM
Re: Denver Dog Proven Not a Pitbull
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James Biggs
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good for dexter...
i dispise BSL. And the people who implented it. I cant stand them because if they would spend 2 hours learning about dog psychology, then there wouldnt be discrimination against particular breeds. its so obvious to a true dog lover.
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#254875 - 10/17/09 02:01 PM
Re: Denver Dog Proven Not a Pitbull
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Melissa Thom
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You need to be careful with statements like this. Animal control has an absolutely thankless but necessary job for the community. Yes you might disagree with Denver's laws but it doesn't mean that the AC crew doesn't have to enforce it.
This article was designed to stoke the already irate people on the matter, hence the photos of puppies and the tone of the article. The paper who writes this called the Westword is an alternative newspaper without all the balance and fact checking that would be found in oh say the Denver post who ran a similar story without the editorial commentary. http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_13535727
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#254889 - 10/17/09 06:06 PM
Re: Denver Dog Proven Not a Pitbull
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James Biggs
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You need to be careful with statements like this. Animal control has an absolutely thankless but necessary job for the community. Yes you might disagree with Denver's laws but it doesn't mean that the AC crew doesn't have to enforce it. This article was designed to stoke the already irate people on the matter, hence the photos of puppies and the tone of the article. The paper who writes this called the Westword is an alternative newspaper without all the balance and fact checking that would be found in oh say the Denver post who ran a similar story without the editorial commentary. http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_13535727
i said the people who implemented it..not the people who are forced to enforce it
Edited by James Biggs (10/17/09 06:06 PM)
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#254929 - 10/18/09 05:56 PM
Re: Denver Dog Proven Not a Pitbull
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Joy van Veen
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I'm not going to focus here on whether "pit bulls" are or are not vicious. The articles were about identification of pit bulls, so that is where I will start.
Breed identification check sheets are inherently faulty. Training someone to identify a pitbull based on such characteristics as coat length, skin elasticity, etc.; is obviously flawed. But what is often overlooked, is that even those who are experts in breeds which are included under the label "pit bulls", often can't identify whether a mixed breed has or doesn't have pit bull in the mix; let alone to what degree. Only DNA testing is accurate enough, which would raise the cost of implimenting BSL to exhorbitant levels.
Now even assuming that no matter how many dogs may have been mis-identified as pits; lets assume that pits have not been mis-identified as other breeds. Assume no APBT has been labeled a Boxer for instance, so that there should be much less pit bulls in Denver today than 20 yrs ago. Has the 20 yr BSL in Denver reduced the numbers of dangerous dogs? Are there significantly less dog bites?
The rationale that banning pits would reduce dog bites has not proven true. So why continue to waste time and money on it. Why are other communities continuing to impliment new BSL when they could easily check the records in Denver to see how useless it is.
No, I am not blaming ACOs. They are just trying to do an impossible job the best they can. That they mis-identify breeds does not necessarily mean they have been lax in learning, just that there is no consistant way to identify mix breeds accurately as to breed, let alone degree of breed.
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