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#255699 - 10/29/09 05:15 AM How to build a puppy's prey drive?
Jose Miguel Gome
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How can one work a puppy's prey drive and at what age?
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#255706 - 10/29/09 07:57 AM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Jose Miguel Gome]
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Whatever age you chose. Shrug, if he has it, use it.

Age appropriate of course.
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#255708 - 10/29/09 08:59 AM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Jose Miguel Gome]
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Hi Jose,
If you give a little more detail about your situation, you'll get some responses that will be more detailed... ;\)
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#255795 - 10/30/09 04:37 PM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Lynne Barrows]
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5 month old Rough Collie.

This is a pet. However, he will be trained his intire life obedience commands because i believe it is fun for them and important for us.

This particular dog seems to have a moderate to high drive do mouthing people's ankles, a moderate interest in non-moving toys and a low drive towards moving objects. He also seems to be a week nerved dog with kind of a soft temperament. He's not very active. He has decent food drive. Also, this assumptions are very preliminary, since he is so young and i didn't worked him very much on toy drive.

We would like to work that up so that we can use different kinds of reinforcemente in our repertoire, and not just food.

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#257017 - 11/17/09 12:30 PM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Jose Miguel Gome]
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Can you help me?
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#257029 - 11/17/09 01:18 PM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Jose Miguel Gome]
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Jose, what kind of play objects have you tried so far? Tugs, balls, rolled up hand towels, etc? What about toys to stimulate his herding urge? Maybe a playground ball to roll around...

Also, just a reminder that at 5 months, your pup is teething or will be soon, so you don't want to do anything with tugs, etc that might make his mouth hurt.

If you can, get this DVD; it's great for building food drive and also for improving your bond w/ your puppy.
The Power of Training Dogs w/ Food
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#257032 - 11/17/09 01:37 PM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Lynne Barrows]
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 Originally Posted By: Lynne Barrows

If you can, get this DVD; it's great for building food drive and also for improving your bond w/ your puppy.
The Power of Training Dogs w/ Food


I forgot to say, Michael's method essentially creates drive with the food, much as you would w/ a toy. It would be a great place to start, before transitioning to a toy...
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#257758 - 11/26/09 08:57 AM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Lynne Barrows]
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Hello Lynne. Thanks for the advices.

We've tried a little bit with balls, ropes, tugs. However i don't know the exact tehcnique to build it's prey drive. I've just ordered the two new DVD's (the food and the tug one). However, Kenji has allready finished teething and the DVDs are going to take 3-4 weeks to get here.

My doubt is really about the technique and a video would be great. Should i pass the toy in front of the dog and make incouraging sounds with my mouth? Should i put food smell in the toy since this log has decent food drive? Once he bits, even for a split second what should i do to reinforce it and want more?

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#257773 - 11/26/09 11:31 AM Re: How to build a puppy's prey drive? [Re: Jose Miguel Gome]
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Jose,
Why do you want to train with a toy? If your dog is not going to do bitework and it has already shown a good food drive then use it.
It is possible that you have not used the right toy yet, however: if your moving the toy on the ground and the dog shows no interest I'd go back to food. Use the dog's strengths to train and teach. This will be much more motivating for the dog.
It is also possible that you have not developed a good enough relationship with your dog yet and the dog is still not secure enough to cut loose.
These are just some of the possibilities and a good reason to have a good trainer around to diagnose what's going on.

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