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#256142 - 11/04/09 09:15 AM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: Lynne Barrows]
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My two cents: the pup and the toddler need to be "trained" separately for now. It's clear that allowing two babies together (one with very sharp teeth) and hoping to control both isn't working out. How could it? The pup simply has not EARNED as much freedom as you are permitting.

Pup and baby should only interact when you have total control--for the safety of both of them. Clearly, your child's safety is the most important--but I also worry about the safety of a pup that is put in a position where he might seriously injure someone. That's a good way to get euthanized (or beaten, or banished to a yard pen, etc.) I'm not saying you would do those things...but it happens.

With intelligent management and training (and you do seem like a very intelligent person), this problem will get better with time. Puppies do settle down, they stop teething eventually, and with training they catch on to the rules of a family. I have no experience with human toddlers, but I assume they also grow. ;^)
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#256145 - 11/04/09 09:31 AM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: Connie Sutherland]
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 Originally Posted By: Connie Sutherland


I'm not sure I agree about tethering being insufficient, but we may have very different ideas of what it means. I mean that the puppy is attached to my jeans with a 5-foot line.
My one year old(well, 18 month old) knows what "leave the dog alone" means.

Of course I would never leave them alone together to test it out, but when I'm in the room, "Leave the dog alone", is sufficient.

He's known since he could walk that chasing, grabbing, or screaming at the dog aren't things you get to do.

Turbo also respects Koen's space, but I can't see it being any harder with a puppy tied to me.

If it was, separation. That simple.

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#256146 - 11/04/09 09:39 AM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: Danity Siebenale]
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 Originally Posted By: Danity Siebenale
But we are going to go back to tethering and separation. Perhaps once we get him proofed on "sit" and "down" we can introduce them calmly to one another.
I know this feels like you'll be doing it FOREVER, but I promise it is shorter than you think.

It won't take hardly any time at all for your puppy, and even your son, to learn how to interact.

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#256147 - 11/04/09 09:43 AM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: Danity Siebenale]
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 Originally Posted By: Danity Siebenale
I know thhe is not trying to hurt the baby
Wait. I keep reading "baby".

Is there a kid younger than the 2 year old that we're talkin' about?

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#256152 - 11/04/09 10:41 AM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: Danity Siebenale]
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Everything has pretty much been covered for you Danity with one common theme. Separation. My preference for when the kids are running around playing is to crate the dog in the beginning, not try and keep them obedient on a leash. I think of that as a huge distraction they're not ready for yet.

You've seen now, how much good it does for a two year old to turn his back on a jumping puppy, and he's probably so fast you can't stop it if they're close enough to do it. No contact at all is better then letting bad habits get started. They only get worse.

We always want that perfect relationship between our kids and dogs, but like Melissa touched on, most dogs don't come with that automatic respect for kids. Don't worry that you can't end up with that when you separate them. It's not isolation, they're still around each other, they grow up together and your training carriers over.When they are ready to interact, you'll see it. A little bit at a time and you'll know.
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#256252 - 11/05/09 06:51 PM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: Michael_Wise]
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No, the 2 year old is just the baby of the family. Sorry, he'll always be my baby. ;\)
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#256253 - 11/05/09 06:54 PM Re: Help with the Puppy and our 2 year old [Re: steve strom]
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Thanks, everyone! \:\)
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