Hi all. I have heard of a company that puts together a complete raw frozen food that one defrosts and then just serves. I must admit while i enjoy feeding a variety to my dogs if this has all they need then it would help in cost and time..Anyone see a down side to feeding a complete raw food? I thibk i will still top it up with RMb like turkey necks.
Does anyone see any issues with thier food content? if so please advise me. Many thanks.

MOISTURE: 61.9%
Sources: Natural meat juices (drinking water cannot substitute meat juices for all functions, egg it does not reach the cells).
Function: Keeping up humidity and body temperature; secretion of waste matter, it contains the easiest absorbable iron (tap water contains more iron, but it cannot be absorbed).
Crude protein: 11.20%
Sources: ox muscle meat, ox heart, ox liver ox lung, ox kidneys, third stomach fourth stomach, paunch, chicken
Function: Nutrients for the body : enzymes, cells, hormones.
Crude /at 10.60%
Sources: ox fat, chicken fat, sunflower oil,
wheat-germ oil, fish liver-oil Function: Source of energy nutrient taste.
Crude cellulose: 1.2%
Sources: Indigestible rests of maize, wheat,
bran Function: Adaptation of the rate of intestine
transit.
Ash: 2.1%
Rest Carbohydrates: 13%
Sources: Maize, wheat, bran Function: Nutrients.



MINERALS
Calcium 0.47% Structuring of the skeleton Diy matter 1.09%
Potassium 0.21% Growth ; prevents restlessness and bad nervous development.
Sodium 0.42% Necessary for the production of digestive acids in the stomach.
Magnesium 275mg/kg Necessary for bones and tissue; for stronger JOINTS in puppies.
Manganese 14mg/kg Structuring of bones and production of enzymes; fertility and optimum effect of the vitamin B Complex and of Vitamin C. Iron 31 mg/kg.Absorption of oxygen; prevents anaemia, weakness and fatigue.
Cobalt 0.8mg/kg Blood cell production and optimum effect of Vitamin B12
Copper 5.8mg/kg Blood cell production; allows iron absorption, necessary for pigment.
Zinc 65mg/kg Skin, nails, appetite; optimum functioning of the kidneys muscular strength; necessary for the synthesis of protein.
Phosphorus 0.46% Bones and the functioning of the Dry matter 1.06% Vitamin B Complex.
Selenium 0.12mg/kg Is, together with Vitamin E, necessary for fertility.
Iodine 0.65mg/kg Necessary for all vital processes, METABOLISM and use of oxygen.
DUCK EXCELLENT 2.340,-K/Cal / kilo
VITAMINS
Vitamin A, 8000 iu/kg
Is only found in animal material.
Sources: Liver, fish liver oil.
Function: Growth and development resistance to infections; prevents night-blindness;
Skin, hair and bones.
Vitamin Bl, 12 mg/kg
Sources: Wheat, bran, liver, brewer's yeast. Function: Digestion, growth, nervous and cardiac functions.
Vitamin 62, 8 mg/kg
Sources; Liver, kidney
Function: Production of energy out of fat and protein; growth and development.
Vitamin B3, 33 mg/kg
Sources: Meat, wheat, bran, lung, kidney, liver, heart, chicken, acid brewer's yeast.
Function: Optimum functioning of the kidneys; synthesis of antibodies; energy metabolism.
Vitamin B5, 158 mg/kg
Sources: Lung, liver, kidney, muscle meats,
wheat, brewer's yeast Function: Digestion; conversion of energy into
protein, fats and carbohydrates; blood
pressure.
Vitamin B6, 33 mg/kg
Sources: Beef, heart, liver, kidney, lung, brewer's yeast, bran.
Function: Processing of protein and fat; prevents nervous and skin diseases; Supports metabolism of several minerals.



Vitamin B9, 12 mg/kg
Sources: Muscle meats, liver, kidney, wheat, brewer's yeast.
Function: Healthy skin, formation of antibodies; formation of blood platelets, muscles and nerves; milk production.
Vitamin B12, O.lOmg/kg
Sources: Beef, liver, kidney
Function: Provides appetite and more energy. Prevents anaemia, promotes normal-growth; supports normal functioning of the nervous system.
Vitamin C, 23mg/kg
Sources: The dog usually produces this itself. However, we do add Vitamin C to the food, because some animals consume more than they can produce.
Function: Bones, cartilage and skin; fertility; prevention of infections and mucous bleedings.
Vitamin D3, 945 iu/kg
Sources: Fish liver oil, sunlight. Function: Prevention of rachitis; transportation of phosphorus and calcium.
Vitamin E, 15mg/kg
Sources: Wheat-germ oil, sunflower oil, fish liver oil. Function: Production of red blood cells; promotes Vitamin A and K intake.
Vitamin K, 1.08 mg/kg
Sources: Maize, chicken, meat.
Function: Important for coagulation of the blood.
Biotin, 0.074 mg/kg
Sources: Ox liver, kidney, brewer's yeast. Function: Fur and fat-metabolism; prevents
eczema, fatigue and supports the
synthesis of Vitamin C.


** from http://www.k9consultants.co.uk/duck-analysis.html **

Edited by Connie Sutherland (07/23/2009 03:03 PM)
Edit reason: include source of text

It's going to take awhile to list it all, but yes, I see problems with this.

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MOISTURE: 61.9%
Sources: Natural meat juices (drinking water cannot substitute meat juices for all functions, egg it does not reach the cells).
Function: Keeping up humidity and body temperature; secretion of waste matter, it contains the easiest absorbable iron (tap water contains more iron, but it cannot be absorbed).
Crude protein: 11.20%
Sources: ox muscle meat, ox heart, ox liver ox lung, ox kidneys, third stomach fourth stomach, paunch, chicken
Function: Nutrients for the body : enzymes, cells, hormones.
Crude /at 10.60%
Sources: ox fat, chicken fat, sunflower oil,
wheat-germ oil, fish liver-oil Function: Source of energy nutrient taste.
Crude cellulose: 1.2%
Sources: Indigestible rests of maize, wheat,
bran Function: Adaptation of the rate of intestine
transit.
Ash: 2.1%
Rest Carbohydrates: 13%
Sources: Maize, wheat, bran Function: Nutrients.

First, what do you know about the health of the animals being included in this food? Are these diseased animals being used?
What parts of the animal are being used?

Fish liver oil? Wheat germ oil?
Uh, no. Dogs need fish BODY oil.

Maize? That's code for CORN!!! Awful.
The "indigestible parts"? Why in the name of Dog would you want to feed anything "indigestible" to your dog?

Bran?

That alone is reason enough not to feed this... but it keeps getting worse.

Am I missing the bone?

Andrew, can you post this in a format we can read? Not a list w/parentheses?

Can you just give us the link maybe?

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MINERALS
Calcium 0.47% Structuring of the skeleton Diy matter 1.09%
Potassium 0.21% Growth ; prevents restlessness and bad nervous development.
Sodium 0.42% Necessary for the production of digestive acids in the stomach.
Magnesium 275mg/kg Necessary for bones and tissue; for stronger JOINTS in puppies.
Manganese 14mg/kg Structuring of bones and production of enzymes; fertility and optimum effect of the vitamin B Complex and of Vitamin C. Iron 31 mg/kg.Absorption of oxygen; prevents anaemia, weakness and fatigue.
Cobalt 0.8mg/kg Blood cell production and optimum effect of Vitamin B12
Copper 5.8mg/kg Blood cell production; allows iron absorption, necessary for pigment.
Zinc 65mg/kg Skin, nails, appetite; optimum functioning of the kidneys muscular strength; necessary for the synthesis of protein.
Phosphorus 0.46% Bones and the functioning of the Dry matter 1.06% Vitamin B Complex.
Selenium 0.12mg/kg Is, together with Vitamin E, necessary for fertility.
Iodine 0.65mg/kg Necessary for all vital processes, METABOLISM and use of oxygen.
DUCK EXCELLENT 2.340,-K/Cal / kilo
VITAMINS
Vitamin A, 8000 iu/kg
Is only found in animal material.
Sources: Liver, fish liver oil.
Function: Growth and development resistance to infections; prevents night-blindness;
Skin, hair and bones.
Vitamin Bl, 12 mg/kg
Sources: Wheat, bran, liver, brewer's yeast. Function: Digestion, growth, nervous and cardiac functions.
Vitamin 62, 8 mg/kg
Sources; Liver, kidney
Function: Production of energy out of fat and protein; growth and development.
Vitamin B3, 33 mg/kg
Sources: Meat, wheat, bran, lung, kidney, liver, heart, chicken, acid brewer's yeast.
Function: Optimum functioning of the kidneys; synthesis of antibodies; energy metabolism.
Vitamin B5, 158 mg/kg
Sources: Lung, liver, kidney, muscle meats,
wheat, brewer's yeast Function: Digestion; conversion of energy into
protein, fats and carbohydrates; blood
pressure.
Vitamin B6, 33 mg/kg
Sources: Beef, heart, liver, kidney, lung, brewer's yeast, bran.
Function: Processing of protein and fat; prevents nervous and skin diseases; Supports metabolism of several minerals.

Again, what's up with all the known allergens.

Anytime generic "meat" is listed, run away.
There's no law that prevents pound puppies and roadkill from being used as "meat" in pet food.

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Vitamin B9, 12 mg/kg
Sources: Muscle meats, liver, kidney, wheat, brewer's yeast.Function: Healthy skin, formation of antibodies; formation of blood platelets, muscles and nerves; milk production.
Vitamin B12, O.lOmg/kg
Sources: Beef, liver, kidney
Function: Provides appetite and more energy. Prevents anaemia, promotes normal-growth; supports normal functioning of the nervous system.
Vitamin C, 23mg/kg
Sources: The dog usually produces this itself. However, we do add Vitamin C to the food, because some animals consume more than they can produce.
Function: Bones, cartilage and skin; fertility; prevention of infections and mucous bleedings.
Vitamin D3, 945 iu/kg
Sources: Fish liver oil, sunlight. Function: Prevention of rachitis; transportation of phosphorus and calcium.
Vitamin E, 15mg/kg
Sources: Wheat-germ oil, sunflower oil, fish liver oil. Function: Production of red blood cells; promotes Vitamin A and K intake.
Vitamin K, 1.08 mg/kg
Sources: Maize, chicken, meat.
Function: Important for coagulation of the blood.
Biotin, 0.074 mg/kg
Sources: Ox liver, kidney, brewer's yeast. Function: Fur and fat-metabolism; prevents
eczema, fatigue and supports the
synthesis of Vitamin C.

More known allergens, more generic "meat", more fish liver oil in leiu of the fish BODY oil that dogs need.

Also, uh, why are they listing "sunlight" as an ingredient? How exactly do you bag that?
(Just goes to show, there are virtually no laws regarding dog food ingredient disclosure.)

 Quote: Jenni Williams

Am I missing the bone?

Andrew, can you post this in a format we can read? Not a list w/parentheses?

Can you just give us the link maybe?

I recognize it.

http://www.k9consultants.co.uk/duck-analysis.html

Love the bold-faced lie on the website:

"It’s whole food - you don't have to add anything."

Uh, yeah ya do. How 'bout Salmon Oil?

 Quote: Jenni Williams

Am I missing the bone? ...

The calcium is listed as a supplemented mineral.

So the answer is "no." We can't get an ingredient list. Peachy.