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April 14, 2011
Cindy,
I just wanted to let you know that we received the e-collar and the video yesterday. Thank you so much for giving me the advice on the questions I had about the correct e-collar to purchase as well as the video on e-collar training. I was hesitant about going to an e-collar because of previous information circulating about how the collars were inhumane and training with one would ruin your dog. I watched the video in its entirety last night and will view it again and again as my dogs training progresses. Ed’s video made everything so clear and the steps used made so much sense to me. I will be following his training to the letter, beginning with the initial 2 week adjustment to the collar. I really like the idea of making sure the training is positive and the dogs attitude is maintained on a working level. Thank you so much for all the information and training that you and Ed provide. It is abundantly clear how much you care for and respect your animals.
Diane
March 2, 2011
Dear Mr. Frawley,
I ordered a Dogtra 280 NCP and DVD in January for my dog. He has been chasing deer and not responding to the recall when he becomes distracted. I was very worried that someone would see him chasing deer and shoot him, so I wouldn't grant him any freedom. After working with him with the new remote collar, he is like a new dog. He no longer chases deer and can now be free to run and sniff the woods on our daily walks. He seems to be a happier dog and his attitude towards me has even changed for the better. I know you said to never go out without the collar, so he always wears it just in case he needs to be reminded, but with your help our problem seems to be solved. I think you may have saved his life! Thank you so much for all your help.
Sincerely,
Karen
Ed's Response: Karen,
Thanks for the feedback. Emails like this make my day.
My 18 month old Mal is the same, he gets his collar on in the morning and it comes off after his last walk at night. The most important thing to always remember on your walks is to always have the transmitter in your hand on your walks. The key to effective training is timely corrections. If a transmitter is in a coat pocket that timing is lost. It took me a while to figure this out.
Good luck with your dog. You are on the right track. I tell people that most dogs don’t want to be pack leaders. They just assume the role when they don’t have effective leadership and then feel stress over it. You have taken back the leadership role.
Regards,
Ed Frawley
May 17, 2010
Dear Ed and Cindy:
Thank you for your website; I've never found more useful information on the web.
We've got a 15-month-old neutered male Irish Setter who is playful, affectionate and very intelligent (and gorgeous), and he is becoming a wonderful, well-behaved family dog. As you might have predicted, he learns and responds quickly, with the exception of the recall. Once he picks up a scent, he's gone. Although we have plenty of acreage for him to run, I worried he could easily leave our property and become an annoyance or get hurt. I have marker trained him, but the recall was a failure and I was beginning to worry that I was ill-equipped to train him properly. And then I came across your site and read your articles on e-collars. I purchased a Dogtra 280 and introduced it to Dash as you instructed. It took Dash two sessions with the collar (never turned up to more than 40 even in the woods surrounded by critters and distractions galore) to come when I called him. We practice every day and I rarely have to hit the nick button. This is, of course, a tribute to his intelligence rather than my trainer skills, but it is a success, none the less. It's such a joy to walk with him off leash; he loves to run and I love that I can give him some freedom. Plus, since the Dogtra is waterproof, Dash can splash in our creek or swim in the river while he's wearing it.
I admit I thought e-collars were the same as the old shock collars and I would have never considered one until I found your site. I really appreciated your clear instructions on how to use the collar to train Dash, too - no fear or anxiety for him; just a great learning experience for us both.
Thank you again for the work you've put into your site. It's terrific.
Sincerely,
Paige
Ed's Response:
Paige,
First thanks for the nice email. Made my day.
I had to chuckle at a couple of your comments.
What you will find is that as time passes you will get by with less and less stimulation. It would not surprise me that you will end up training at 15 or maybe even a few points less. Try it on your own arm at 15 – see is you can even feel it. Most humans don’t start to feel anything until about 20 or 22.
As time passes the collar just helps the dog redirect off a distraction – its not a punisher but rather a redirection. I have seen it on our own extremely tough dogs that bite like alligators.
Some words of advice here, don’t ever get to the point where you think “OH WELL He is trained and I don’t need it anymore.” That’s the wrong way to think, look at it like a police officer going out without his weapon because he hasn’t had it out in 2 years. Just be proud of the fact that you don’t have to touch the button in 3 weeks and keep it on the dog, because when you need it YOU REALLY DO NEED IT!!
If you want to take your training to a higher level become a student of marker training, read the free 85 page eBook I wrote on markers. Then go to my free streaming videos and listen to the lecture by Michael Ellis (its in 7 parts) on his theory of dog training. After doing those two things you will understand why am doing a series of training DVDs with Michael, he is a savant to dog training. In 45 years of training (I am 62) I have never met anyone like him. I have done 3 DVDs with him and there will probably be 10 to 15 more.
Thanks again for writing.
Regards,
Ed Frawley
July 12, 2009
Mr. Leerburg,
I have to be frank, the first time I looked at your site I passed it over quickly, I grew up with people who attack trained their dogs and I saw nothing of value there.
However after my male basenji, moved from annoying play biting to play nipping and other out of control behaviors, I realized that I had no choice other than to nip it as quickly as possible - especially after he killed two squirrels and ate them on his 6 month birthday.
After following your instructions in this video exactly, my dog is completely under control. I even take him too a pond park near our house and let him off leash with no fear. He has more freedom and responds to my commands quickly now.
I have ordered your DVD on establishing pack order from amazon-hopefully this will get at the root of his nipping problems with my 7 year old daughter before she gets back from her grandmothers. You certainly know what you are talking about!
Thanks heaps!
Greg
Port Saint Lucie, Fl
July 2, 2009
I purchased the e-collar video at an earlier time when I was trying to decide on using an E-collar. I have sent my GSD to boot camp, and during her time there, they felt it best that the E-collar becomes my back-up collar. It also helped her to relax and learn how to behave. Thank you for your recommendation on which collar to use - I think now, as we continue to work together, she will be easier to train at higher levels. Thank you also, for sharing your knowledge - its amazing how many people think they know what they're doing!
Linda
May 7, 2009
Cindy,
Thank you so much for your recommendation. I bought the Dogtra you recommended and the training video. This is amazing!!
I watched the video for a few days, going over what I needed to do. In the meantime I put the collar on "Sparky" and he would wear it for various times during the days. I never leave it on at night.
I worked with "Sparky" on a 20' cotton lead, going back over sit, stay, down-stay, come etc. "Sparky" loves to play ball and so I would bounce the ball with the lead on. That is a key, I had control of "Sparky." I would throw the ball with sit-stay, down-stay. (I could do this most of the time and he would obey). I'd nick him when he would bolt to get the ball, having him on the cotton lead. I bet I've only had to nick him less than a dozen times. The first time with a dog, I had to hit the continuous. He came back immediately. (I use real chicken as a treat, less expensive than store bought treats. I use Costco's frozen chicken tenders, and cook them and cut them up into small pieces. Healthy, and less expensive and he loves food.)
I started walking down the street short visits, we'd go by a dog. Amazing, the first few times I "nicked" him, he came right to me.
Now......my husband and I can ride our bikes, or walk without leash, (although we bring one with us) he runs with us, and loves it. Dogs on the same side of the street, he ignores. Dogs on the other side of the street he ignores. Wow... this is wonderful. I leave the collar on when we get back and take if off at various times of the day. We run or bike sometimes 2 or 3x per day. I just loosen it a bit, when I'm not actually using it.
Talk about giving "him" freedom. I love this Dogtra, it is the most effective teaching tool. My husband was against me getting one of these when he was a pup, and wished now I had used one. I work almost every day (except weekends) reviewing different things with "Sparky."
Thanks so much, this is so much more enjoyable!!
Karen
February 3, 2009
Cindy,
Several months ago I wrote to Ed about which electric collar would be best for my GSD. The issues I was having dealt with bite work, outing the sleeve, and recall. Ed said the Dogtra 1900 model would be a good fit and it was. He also gave advice on how to retrain the out. I followed the email Ed sent and it has worked wonderfully. He will now consistently out on the first command 95% of the time without stimulation. If I have to use the electric collar it is on a very low setting instead of a medium or high setting and he will then come off the sleeve, toy or whatever usually without a second command. He mainly gets stubborn when he thinks it's time to stop playing and I'm going to put his toy up. I watched your electric collar video and found the advice in there very helpful as well. I have referred several people to your website for their dog problems and I hope they have found you and Ed's knowledge as helpful as I have.
Thanks again,
Neil
December 24, 2007
My problem was (in capital letters 'was') the heavy prey drive in my dog.
In drive, off lead voice just did not matter. I'm no neophyte with dogs, but this one has confounded me on this issue since she was about 6 or 7 months old, she now almost 2 years. I'd tried every trick and ploy I've learned over the years and decades with dogs, pored over books to see if I'd missed anything and rehashed it all again. The only thing I never reverted to was the yank and crank garbage I was taught as a child, but I was getting close to it.
About 3 or 4 weeks ago I ordered and reviewed Ed's video on the use of remote collars. Watched again. And refreshed my memory before going out today. This is a testament from a first time user of remote collars........Magic.
Thank you Ed and Cindy,
Randy
Dear Mr. Frawley,
First of all, let me say that I normally do not write these kinds of letters. However, the change in our dog over the last month has been so dramatic, I felt that I really needed to thank you.
Our dog, Wilson, is a 16 month old Golden Retriever. He wasn't a bad dog, just head-strong. We've been through several training classes and even passed his CGC. The problem was, he was perfect in class, but at home, he could be a not-so-little monster. He would obey if he felt like it, and his jumping was getting way out of hand. I'm sure he would have outgrown much of this in another year, but meanwhile, I was the only one in the family who still liked him! To make matters worse, he has an orthopedic condition known as Osgood-Schlatter Disease, which means we can't exercise him enough to get his energy out.
About a month ago, I found your website. I started implementing some of your methods immediately and ordered your basic obedience dvd. I also purchased a Dogtra 1900 and your dvd on using an electric collar. Wilson is a hard dog. Although the prong collar worked on him, I really had to yank to get a response. Plus, he'd gotten collar wise. After 2 weeks of conditioning him to the electric collar, we gave it a try. We got the desired response at only 36! Within 2 days, he was no longer jumping on people. 2 days later, he was off leash in the yard, with 100% recall. I've had to "stem" him maybe 15 times total. Amazing.
To make a long story short, we don't have the same dog that we had a month ago. Everyone in the family is grateful for the change. Yesterday, my elderly parents came for a visit, and we were able to leave Wilson out of his crate and off leash. He's finally able to be the part of the family that I've always dreamed of. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. It has made such a difference to us. I only wish we'd found you a year ago.
Sincerely,
Brenda
PS Your "two-ball" game was right on. He's now unbelievably reliable in his retrieve...and drops the ball at our feet!
Ed,
The Dogtra electric collar and the video represent the best investment I have ever made on training items. The collar and video worked amazingly well on my 11 mo old 115 lb Shepard. The Come command is absolutely automatic even with distraction after only 2 sessions. Now working on stay" with distractions. This is an amazing tool and He loves to please...no negatives that I can see on this method!
Thanks,
Bob and Fonzie (GSD)
Howdy Ed,
First let me commend you on your recent video pertaining to electronic collar training. It provides a concept that I hope all new electric collar trainers will follow.
I have been using the Tri-Tonics S60 for a year now and initially was led down the trail to use the "escape" training method. I found as you did that this was not an effective way to maintain my bond with my dog and at the same time have him understand commands as related to stimulation. I changed my method after one month of use and found delight in seeing in your video that we are on the same wave length. At last someone who really gets it. Thanks!
I initiated the local Citizens Police Academy Alumni Association here in Coppell, Texas. I also volunteer to rid puppy mills of selling Kerry Blue Terriers. The Foundation web site www.kerryblues.info is also an excellent source of information to those may need general pet information.
I have two Kerry Blue Terriers, one of my Kerries works periodically with the local PD during events to promote safety to our community.
I have sent many dog owner to your web site to read the various excellent training articles. Some Kerries do have an aggressive tendency and your articles have helped many. Thanks again!
Keep up the good work
Regards,
Tom
Hi Ed and Cindy,
I can't tell you how much your new DVD on electric collar training has helped me!!! I would not have sent Winnie for training if I had seen this a year ago. Your training techniques are so logical and fair to the dogs. After seeing this video I feel much more confident that I have done way more things right than wrong. Just needed to step things up a notch by going to the electric collar, yet had no idea how to even start. Through your education of owners there will be happier dogs! This has got to make your hard work and effort very gratifying. Good job!!
Thanks so much and best regards to you both,
Debbie
Mr Frawley,
I got your video on the electric collar training today and I must say it was worth every penny plus much more. EXCELLENT! I can't tell you how much I "get it" now.
I will have to watch it several more time and plan to watch each segment just prior to going out and actually doing the training so everything is fresh in my mind.
I was debating whether to buy your basic obedience video as well because I felt that I had accomplished this already with the help of a pro trainer, but like you have mentioned before I feel that my trainer may have rushed many things especially on teaching the basic commands. Just to make sure I can accomplish this training to the fullest I think I should get your obedience dvd and do a refresher with both my dogs so I can not feel guilty of correcting them for not doing things they have not been taught.
Mr. Frawley:
A little over a month ago I wrote you about our German Shepherd who was dominant with my husband and me. I just wanted to write and thank you for recommending the shock collar to us. We purchased your Electric Collar Training video along with the Dogtra 1900 collar from you and we have seen amazing results with Kazan.
We really couldn't have done it without you. Your video was packed with so much useful information. I know if I had not watched it prior to the start of training Kazan with the electric collar I would have made a lot of mistakes.
Although I love my dog dearly, after dealing with his behavioral issues for the last 2 months I was getting to a point where I wasn't sure if we'd be able to keep Kazan because he didn't seem to be responding to us but again thanks to your help we can live happily with our dog.
Thank you thank you thank you so much!!!! Attached is a picture of my husband and our dog.
Sincerely,
Gina
Hello,
I have just received you DVD on the use of electric collars. Order came very quickly & with minimum of customs fuss, very appreciated.
Very good DVD and looking forward to implementing the training techniques. In the DVD you say that you can advise which electric collar you use and find to be the best if emailed. If you could advise, I would appreciate that.
Your comments on the differing collars and stance of not endorsing a particular brand in your DVD does you credit. Too many times in the past I have seen 'trainers' demonstrating a technique which seems to have more to so with the particular (endorsed) brand of equipment that they are using, rather than the best method of training the dog.
Many thanks
Chris
Hello Ed,
Well, it has been about 4 days since I first began training with the electric collar on my dog Teddy. I had watched your DVD and followed exactly what you recommended as guidelines for training. It has been amazing! My dog is responding consistently to the command "Teddy Come" even with distractions.the biggest ones being ...visitors. I have not had to nick him since the first day. It has made a difference to my three boys as well, having a better trained dog.
The genuine care and concern you have for these dogs was very apparent. I am so excited to continue with my training and i just wanted to say a giant Thank YOU!
Sincerely,
Kristen
Hi Ed,
I learned so much from watching your electric training video this weekend. I truly believe that everyone who is thinking of remote training should watch your instructions. During the video, you mentioned that we could email you for your recommendation on a remote collar. Do you have a particular make/model that you prefer? I have a 3-year-old female german shepherd that I believe would benefit from remote training.
Thank you for your outstanding video.
Kind Regards,
Cindy
Ed,
This is Bill from Las Vegas. We spoke before the holidays via EMAIL about "Sit Means Sit," Avoidance training and so on.
I did get your electric collar training DVD. In the email you had asked me what I thought about it.
Well, this was one of the Best DVDs I have ever seen on Electric Training. I have a few.
Besides the instruction you offer, one thing stands out in your DVDs. It really shows that you CARE about the dogs you train. For me, that is the most important thing's any trainer can do!
I will be buying a few more DVDs soon!
Thanks again,
WSV
Dear Ed:
I’ve just added Leerburg’s, "Dealing with Dominant & Aggressive Dogs" and "Electric Collar Training for Pet Owners," to my library. The quality and clarity of Leerburg dog training Videos and DVDs is the best I’ve seen. I own, Cave Canum Catahoula Kennel’s in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I train almost, every day and now after thirty-years I know what works and don’t. Leerburg training works and if I consistently apply the methods, my dogs become 100% better, fast. Leerburg is a mountain of dog behavioral instruction and equipment. When I buy from them, it’s not a cost, it’s an investment. Ed Frawley and the other trainers, don’t bite their tongues about dog training. The truth comes, flat out simple and direct, exactly what I expect, exactly what I want and exactly what I need.
Thanks again for your fine work,
Sid
Dear Mr. Frawley,
I'm not a professional dog trainer, nor do I participate in precision obedience competition, but I do teach my own pets basic commands so they can be good dogs & we can all live happily together. I currently own an eight year old male Borzoi & a 12 month old Akita spay who already knew "Sit, Stay, Down, Come, Heel, Place, Kennel, Leave It & No" and would obey dependably while in the house & out walking on lead...
I recently bought them electric collars, because I wanted a better & faster method of perfecting their reliability on the off lead recall, since both of them are leash-wise on a 30-foot long line. I purchased a set of fairly decent Innotek collars with a dual-frequency transmitter (it has 9 stim levels, a tone-only mode, instant boost button & a 1000 yard range) but I disagreed with their training video where they taught "continual stim until exercise complete". Instead, I did the following:
One at a time, in our fenced yard, on lead, wearing an electric collar, I ran through all their known obedience exercises, PLUS, each time I gave a command, I would also activate the tone-only button on the electric collar (it sounds right in the collar itself) so they would associate that noise with a voice command. Both dogs performed well, knowing I could give a leash correction if they refused to obey...
So then I removed the long line & ran through their commands again, with variable results of some slow response, "selective hearing impairment" and one refusal by my young Akita (so I lured her to me with bait, replaced the line, repeated the exercise, ending that session with compliance on her part). Then I went off lead again, but this time when she refused a recall, I gave her one nick on the lowest stim setting (no response until level 3, out of 9 settings) but once she could feel the correction, PRESTO, instant obedience without any loss of attitude! My veteran Borzoi doesn't refuse commands, but sometimes would give passive resistance by obeying as slow as molasses in January, and his initial response to an electric collar correction on the lowest level was going into Klingon mode & becoming Velcro Dog, but he got over it...
Stunning success with both dogs in just ONE training session of only a few minutes duration!
Shortly after this, I heard about your electric collar pet training DVD & I ordered one immediately. It is really excellent, with the background information, the history of e-training, and all the real-time training sessions with different dogs & various problem solving scenarios — it's a goldmine of instruction & helpful tips, so I'm recommending it to all my dog-owning friends.
I'm now on a mission to educate the doggie public about how electric collars work WITHOUT any electric shocking at all (or maybe once in a blue moon if the dog is being extremely tempted by an irresistible distraction enough to cause "momentary deafness" so it needs one remote correction). People cannot imagine that my dogs became voice command reliable off lead in only ONE e-training session & have worked dependably without ANY e-stim ever since then. After all, these were never obedience trial "poster dogs" prior to wearing their electric collars, but seeing is believing & folks are amazed at the overnight transformation in their performance.
So I'm telling anyone interested to buy a high quality remote training system, throw away the video that comes with it, and get your electric collar pet training DVD instead — Thank you !!!
Candi
Ed's Response
Thanks for the kind words. One reason this worked so well for your dogs is the amount of basic obedience they had before the collar training started. This makes a big difference.
I also like to see people take time introducing the collar. It is not a matter of getting a dog used to wearing the collar until he ignores having it on his neck, the goal (as explained in my DVD) is to desensitize the dog having the collar put on and taken off. The act of the collar going ON THE DOG is not a trigger we want for the dog to mind. We want our dog to ignore the collar and learn to mind every voice command. A small point but an extremely important fact of training.
Ed,
Great videos on Basic training and E collars. Got a lot out of them. I learned never test your 1/2 second nick when holding on to the E collar. That was funny, when you gave yourself the jolt. I'm still laughing. But on the serious side, I've learned more from your videos in the last couple days, then I've learned working with other trainers in months. I wish I would have bought these particular videos sooner.
Thanks again,
Michael
I did receive the DVD today via UPS – yeah! I am half-way through it, taking a break, and am extremely, extremely pleased! We have several new dogs on our SAR team that have some very bad habits of not recalling immediately (and they DO understand the command), and also engage in some crittering while free area searching. They are receiving *reward system and marker training,* and additionally, this DVD will be a great team training tool, and a easily understood visual medium for instruction to reinforce the marker training with a remote trainer for these dogs (we do not harness the philosophy of using the remote trainer for stimulating the dog to give a behavior, or as Ed calls it avoidance training – great definition!), that have learned that when I’m 100 yds. away, my human can’t reinforce the *NO.*
Thank you! . . . and an FYI . . . Dillon (Argus vom Leerburg) is working hard and doing great!
Best Regards,
Wendy
Hello Ed,
I've reviewed your DVD on electric collar training and I was very impressed. The delivery of your methods is very clear and understandable, as is the case with videos I've ordered in the past.. Hmm, speaking of the electric collar DVD and videos of the past, I've noticed, uh, well I've noticed what was no longer there. That would be your hair!! he, he. And I especially enjoyed the part where you discovered what a high level jolt is!! It was amusing, and it also spoke of the depth of your honesty and spontaneity by leaving that section in the DVD...and replaying it! I had the same experience, only mine was on my leg. At first I did not get any stimulation and I kept cranking up the transmitter. Then I turned the damn receiver on, did not reduce the stim and got one hell of a surprise!
You have an excellent manner of Teaching" these complicated methods, Mr. Frawley. You have a knack for presenting lessons in a clear and concise way, one that is easy to follow. And this is very, very important because most authors do not know how to make issues clear and teachable. Thank you.
I have a book by Konrad Most. I did not like it. It is not easily understood and the techniques are hard to grasp. His methods require a professional to work with, which makes the book useless. Besides, the motivational inducements now being used are far better than the traditional methods.
Again, thank you for a very concise and easy to learn from DVD. It was well-worth the money.
Sincerely yours,
Tom
Ed
Training with Tiny has been going great, we keep it really short, 2-3 min. a few times a day, and we both have allot of fun. Also been taking on/off all his collars (flat, prong, and E). He used to fight me, now he comes running to put them on because he knows he will get a yes and treats! Quick question, he likes to chomp on my other dog's leg/neck too hard in play, chases the cats if they run too fast, barks when he sees people walking down the street, eats poop (they all do this, it makes me want to strangle them!) when I'm not looking, and rushes our fence when the neighbor's dog comes out. All these above things drive us crazy, are these considered pack behaviors and can I administer a hard correction for doing them? Also when he is conditioned to the E collar in another week or so, can I strap it on and correct him with it when he chases the cats/does all the above things even though I have not officially started training him with it? It would seem easier than stopping what I'm doing to jerk on his long line with a prong collar on. I have not done this yet, wanted to make sure these things are pack behaviors first.
Today I put the collar on Tiny, and determined his level is #78. It took a long time getting there, but now it's just enough to make his head jerk up a little. When he went after my cats, (I have 4) I said no, and pushed the button. He went after 2 different cats. I just had to push the button TWICE! The third time I just said Tiny, no and he turned right around to go lie down. To test it, I put his leash on and walked him over to my cat, he turned right around without me saying anything, it's amazing. I am a fan of electric collars for life! And I was one of the ones so misinformed about them thinking they were the cruelest things on the planet.
Thanks!!!
Iris