I saw in one of the LB videos that ED said that pups should not be allowed to play with other dogs until 6 months or a year (can't remember which)
If you do let your dogs play together will they become doggy after that age?
Keiko is not big on the game tug, he will tug but has a horrible grip. Zuki is still more interested in me if there is the option of playing with him or me.
I guess my real question is : is it ok for Keiko to play with Zuki or is it likely to cause me problems with Keiko's OB? When I say play I mean run around with each other for 20min a day.
Lisa skinner Webboard User Reg: 03-11-2010
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I think it will depend on your dogs and your plans for them. I keep my pups separated to build a bond with me, but I do allow some of my mature dogs to play for short periods as long as I know they are compatible and will come when I call them. I also do not leave high value toys out with the dogs that are together and never, ever more than 2 at a time (learned that the hard way). Oh, and only in male/female or male/male pairs (there's a reason they call my girl dogs what they do lol - they are not ever going to play together)
Melissa Hoyer Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2005
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It's very important to me that all of my dogs get along together, so I work a new pup into the pack very carefully. When they are puppies, I do allow them to interact with the adult dogs, but it is always controlled with the pup on a leash/tether. I never push it to the point where an adult is annoyed and would react in a way I don't want. I will only remove the tether when the whole group is under voice control (will recall away from the group upon command).
As a group, we take controlled pack walks (everyone in heel position). We practice down stays, sit stays and other obedience. We work on the proper behavior around food (everyone gets a turn...no taking another dog's treats). The pup learns not to annoy the adults.
My pack does play. The older two are not interested...Daisy is a hunter who scours the yard for any scent and Grace loves to just stand by me. Kira and Vigo are the youngsters who love to wrestle and play...
Zuki really did not like to play much at first but now that he is bigger she does seem to enjoy it.
She has total recall but Keiko does not. Still since I am in the country and Zuki is so good with recall every time I call her he comes too and if she is not lose than he has 70 percent recall and normally sticks close. He is much more a people dog than Zuki so far (probably more like a chicken).
And if I say "enough" than they will stop tussling, mostly cause if Zuki does not want to play due to my command Keiko has no choice, he has to stop.
My two GSDs are outside together 24/7 but rarely pay much attention to one another. Completely different personalities also. Thunder has always been great with puppys but get's tired of them after that 7-8 month age arrives. Never aggressive but lets them know he's done playing with them.
I always have kept a new pup in the house till they are 7-8 months old. Thunder was 3 when I got Trooper. I did allow some time together in that period in order to learn dog manners.
I believe dogs become doggy for many different reasons but primarily a lack of leadership from the owner is at the top of that list.
One cue I always look for is in training.
I train each dog outside the yard and when I bring whatever dog I'm working with back in the yard I want the dog in the yard to greet me first. That's tells me "I'm" top gun and in charge.
Maybe BS in some minds but it's part of what always worked for me.
I let my Mal pup play with other people's friendly dogs from when I got her at 9 weeks because I wanted her to learn nice dog manners. My other dog is dog-aggressive, and I didn't want to deal with that again. However, I did completely separate my 2 dogs for a few months because I didn't want her to learn bad behaviour from my male, or have a bad experience with him. They live together in the house now, and pretty much ignore each other.
Now at 11 months old, she's fine with other dogs and will play, but if I'm around, she's at my side wanting to interact with me. I think it really comes down to training. If you train a lot and make it fun, your dog will want to play with you.
I guess that is the main point: training... I have been really slack for the last 3 weeks. I feel bad about it cause if Keiko is not careful my family won't let me keep him.
It took them 2 years to like Zuki.
Their house and their rules. Not bad ones just safe ones like he can't bite, show aggression, hurt anyone even on accident, jump up, mouth, or be to hyper around the kids. So for me I train mostly so I can just have the dog. Keiko is smart but I am pushing for a test on the 15th and staying at a friends house till my family catches up with me, which makes it really hard to train or have them doing the things I normally have them doing. Those of you who pray please pray that I pass the test and that Keiko does too.
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