You have to be the judge of this. This is NOT work safe and shows how they deal with some of the canine animals whether it be in this case foxes, dogs, raccons, etc.

This one is worse than the last link so keep in mind that you have to watch this at your own discretion. Again this is sad and people saying this doesn't or didn't happen is a little confusing.

This is a different video and this si still showing what goes on there.

Two totally different people who author this on their sites....

My biggest thing is this. Yes, some of the PETA people are a bit out of line in some instances. I eat meat and will continue to do so for some time to come. I think animals can be used to do work as long as abuse ins't an issue and I can bet they think abuse is having a dog in a kennel, etc... So we would be on 2 different pages.

But in this case, skinning, ok that's fine. They have to make a living, etc. But skinning an animal while its ALIVE AND KICKING is not right. To me that shows the irrelavance for life at all.

Anyhow, here is the link....

The website for the video. NWS, watch at your risk. Contains animal abuse...

I saw this video earlier. Indeed, it is total, complete, and utter disregard for life.

You know, with all that time spent bashing the poor critters against the ground, they could have broken their necks in less time and have saved the poor critters a world of suffering. I'm not against the fur/meat industries either, but no one and nothing deserves to die like that.

I think that this should be done to some of them so that the others can see this & then maybe see what kind of pain they are causing to these poor creatures. Then they could only hope to die or at the least pass out quickly so that they don't experience the kind of pain that they are inflecting. There is no need for this to happen. I can't even fathem the kind of evil mentality that supports this kind of horror. Oh yeah, that's right these people have no respect for the value of a life of any living creatures not even their own kind!

Thanks, Aaron,

I want to say again that I did several hours' worth of research on the Korean dogmeat thing before I ever composed one letter to Korean officials. I know this board rec'd a couple of letters from people in Korea who had not seen such things and were convinced that they no longer existed, and I respect their experience and their opinions.

But not seeing something doesn't necessarily make it untrue, and the dark side of a culture, by its nature, is often hidden from the view of people from different cultures.

I can't watch this new viedo; I had a lot of trouble with the still photos and the less graphic videos when I first read about the practice of "tenderizing" dog meat by torturing the animal before slaughtering it and then killing it using agonizing methods.

I did find contact info and make contact with enough people living and working in Korea who offered me enough credentials and evidence that I was completely convinced of the reality of these practices.

I know that being a dog person slants my viewpoint differently from that of a person who may have been raised to consider them as meat, but I feel very much the same about humane slaughter and treatment of the animals we consider to be meat animals in this country.

Did anyone else notice in that CanisMajor.com history of APBTs that the rationale behind training dogs to torture bulls (leading to the name "bulldogs") was supposedly to tenderize the meat while the animal was still alive? It reminded me of the same idea that's apparently behind the deliberately inhumane treatment of dogs used for meat.

It was a relief to hear from people stationed in Korea (on this board) that this is not a widespread, everyday occurence. But to have someone say "Oh, that's strictly for connoisseurs; that's not common" --- that doesn't enable me to laugh it off.

And yes, I do understand that terrible atrocities against animals of all species are committed everywhere; when I write to Korean officials, I am NOT singling them out as being somehow lesser beings, and I'm not adopting a holier-than-thou attitude. In all its facets, mankind's inhumanity is for the WORLD to try to curtail.........not one scapegoat country.

I'm sorry this is so long. This web site is so great that I just knew that, besides a source of a ton of practical information and sharing of ideas, it might also be a forum for people who want to help advance animal welfare (without violence or name-calling or hate-mongering, or even unrealistic fantasy-ideas about animals not eating each other to survive or about animals not working for a living........).

OK...............hopping off my soapbox. Thank you to the discussion board members who sent me PMs last week asking how to write to government officials. Thank you also for letting me run on like this........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I do believe that aminals have to be slaughtered for food, but there is no need for this type of cruelty. They could have just as easily killed them before they skin them. To start to slaughter them while still alive, just shows the lack of consideration or value for any kind of living creature. This is not acceptable treatment, no mater what cultural diversity we are speaking of.

That is just animal abuse and cruelty. There is no other word for it. And just watching that skinless raccoon all bloody, yet alive and moving around just made tears come to my eyes. Poor thing. And to think that there are people out there with no regard for animal life just makes me soo mad! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Killing for fur and food is one thing, but skinning an animal alive while its squirming is another. And the way they were just stepping on that dogs neck..oooooo it makes me soooo mad. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

QUOTE: I do believe that aminals have to be slaughtered for food, but there is no need for this type of cruelty. END

I have email addresses and mailing addresses of Korean officials and the Korean ambassador. I have copies of the letters I composed and sent. Anyone who wants these pieces of info is welcome to PM me; it's fine with me if someone wants to use my letters, if it's more convenient. Thank you again to the members of this board who requested this material last week so they could make their own protests and especially thank you to the person on this board who took the time and trouble to make the info available to the members of the large organization he belongs to. Every voice matters.

Dennis, This is very sad. I find it interesting that PETA repeatably commits acts of domestic terrorism regarding alleged animal cruelty in countries that somewhat accept their actions, while they do not act upon discovery of gross animal cruelty in countries that will not tolerate their behaviour.

Where are the brave animal liberators when there is an obvious need? Places like those on the video are where there is extreme animal cruelty surely would be the proving grounds for those fully committed to saving animals. I guess its not worth losing your head over? Eh?

Howard

Sickening sights. How can anybody rip the skin off a living creature like that. The image of the skinned animal blinking and looking round will stay with me for a long time I'm sure.

has anybody thought of this?

LIke what if we went to war with that part of Korea or China where this goes on. I think they just might be far more brutal than some of the peopole in iraq. The reason I say this is that the insurgents and terroristic guys are doing things like beheadings. But these are the actual citizens torturing animals like this. Can you imagine if they had reasons to fight against us in a war what they would do to soldiers here, etc.?

I believe that they would do the same to a person and not even flinch...