I was looking around on the net and ran across a site with this information:

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Military Working Dogs are purchased from American breeders (80%) and from selected foreign breeders (20%).

I was under the impression that most, if not all of the MWDs came from Europe. Does anyone have any information on this? Are there any Leerburg dogs being used in the military?

Thanks,

Curtis

Probably 80% from people in the US that import the dogs in.

The Labs were imported from Australia, and They have people that go overseas to buy from brokers. So I don't know that that is true. I know they have a breeding program now. Tim why don't you help him out, you do this for a living.

Curtis,

It is more like the other way around....80% Europe and 20% US...The main reason being money. A person selling dogs for police use will find that they can make a lot more money by selling to police departments and smaller dog business's rather than the military.

The military is always trying to get dogs from the US first but the demand for dogs is strong right now and most people have no trouble selling dogs to other places for a little more money.

Another thing is people that are selling dogs to departments and other business's are getting a lot of their dogs from the same place the military is and is just turning around and selling the same dog for more money.

Tim

Thanks Tim, for your reply. So do you work at Lackland as a K-9 buyer, going to Europe to buy the dogs from different brokers? I was told the military breeding program was being discontinued. Do you have any information on this? (If you're able to talk about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> If the breeding program is still going on, can you comment on how it is working out? Do you invision it to work similar to the Czech Border Patrol (zPS) program?

Curtis, check your PM's for some S-2. And lets just say the breeding program isn't quite going as planned <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And since I'm in the same intel loop as Chris regarding the more esoteric area of the MWD program, let me say that some parts of it made some *stupid* purchase errors and didn't research their sources - which is gonna hurt'em big time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I heard they were restricted in how they could go about their breeding program. You know how brilliant the military can be! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Here are the facts regarding the malinois puppy program. These are coming directly from the manager of the Malinois program if anyone might be interested in where I get my stats.
Keep in mind that there are 2 breeding programs. One breeds labs for the Transportation Security Administration and the other is malinois for the Department of Defense. Sometime some of the rumors coming from one seems to spread to the other. I can only speak for the malinois program.

The malinois program is currently in a research and development stage. They are not "restricted" in breeding and are breeding at this time. Currently the success rate is 52%. That means that 52% of all the puppies that have been produced make a dual purpose patrol/detector dog, patrol only dog, or detector only dog. Some litters have lower success rates and some have much higher rates but total is currently at 52%.

I don't know what type of success rate would be considered a success but I don't think that is too bad. The biggest problem with the program is trying to explain to the people in charge that you will never get a 100% success rate. It would be great if that is possible but for the type of dog that the military is looking for it would be difficult to accomplish.

Any questions for Stewart Hilliard about his involvement with the Malinois breedin gprogram???
I pick him up at the airport here in a couple hours, I'm sure he wouldn't mind fielding a few.

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Here are the facts regarding the malinois puppy program. These are coming directly from the manager of the Malinois program if anyone might be interested in where I get my stats.
Keep in mind that there are 2 breeding programs. One breeds labs for the Transportation Security Administration and the other is malinois for the Department of Defense. Sometime some of the rumors coming from one seems to spread to the other. I can only speak for the malinois program.

The malinois program is currently in a research and development stage. They are not "restricted" in breeding and are breeding at this time. Currently the success rate is 52%. That means that 52% of all the puppies that have been produced make a dual purpose patrol/detector dog, patrol only dog, or detector only dog. Some litters have lower success rates and some have much higher rates but total is currently at 52%.

I don't know what type of success rate would be considered a success but I don't think that is too bad. The biggest problem with the program is trying to explain to the people in charge that you will never get a 100% success rate. It would be great if that is possible but for the type of dog that the military is looking for it would be difficult to accomplish.