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i thought if my sister had a PPD in her house she may have been much worse off becuase it could have made the guy fight.

with a PPD I would guess the fight wouldn't last too long. Damn few people will last any length of time with the force of a bear trap snapped on to a tender part. Fact is, compared to most animals, humans are about as tough as water balloons

i am interested in the role of the dog in PP & how they are utilised on a tactical level, the training videos don't really cover that topic much as they are concerned with training steps and how to go about them. let me know if you know such a video though.

their is a big market for teaching women self defence and such, often preying on their fears in exchange for money to "empower themselves" i tell the women i care about to do everything they can to avoid the situation even if that means seriously limiting their own behaviour.

security guards i have spoken to have supported what you say in that they can back off a crowd of people with a single dog, noone one wants to be the idiot that gets bit.

i would agree with dog versus one unarmed man, dog has the odds in favour. i guess a lot of bad guys prob are not fit trained fighters with a plan which gives the dog an advantage especially if the dog is very fast, committed and has been prepared for effective fighting techniques ie good PP training.

i seriuosly have doubts that a dog would win with two committed attackers that had some intelligence and planned for a dog or one guy with weapons.

of course a crazy attack dog backed by an even crazier armed "attack dog handler" would be a pretty formidble thing to overcome for the average unprepared bad guy.

that implies a contract between dog and handler both playing an equal role and relying on each other to do their share of the work.

i think it is a bit unfair on a good dog to let them go and sort out your problem and not expect to do your bit or run off and leave your dog.

i would be interested to hear what people really expect from their PPD, i assume most folks here got one and are expecting to use it.

Actually, I think that very few members of the forum have true PPD's, the number of people owning one is much smaller than you'd think.

True..Its not unlike living with a loaded weapon following you every where you go....The lifestyle change required to maintain a PPD isn't what most people can handle.


I'm not training them anymore...I've got 4 kids and I homeschool them...no way I could maintain a PPD even just for me right now.....lol...not to mention the condition of my legs at the moment.

Any way..you can't treat them as a pet.....It really changes the whole dynamic of your home....most people can't handle it.

Peter,
I've written extensively in previous posts regarding the sales of PPD's to include customer types, etc.
You may want to spend some time reviewing those posts, they'd likely answer many of your questions.

If I may? I do have it bookmarked right here.

wow thanks Will that was every question answered i ever had + a whole bunch more. i will print the whole thread out and read again & again. actually this thread would have been pretty short if i read all that first. i think there is a conflict with some fanatasy people have with PPD's and the actual realities of owning one. please let me PM you sometime when i get further down the road on this.

Peter, I'm always available for discussion or advice, but if your question isn't too personal, I always ask that it be posted - someone else may have that same question and it might be helpful to have it seen by all.

But PM's are ok, I'm not saying that to discourage questions, we're all here to learn!

roger that, i was a bit adverse to publicly displaying my dumbness but what the hey if it helps someone else.

Kennel flooring question (not sure how strict the mods are re off topic questions sitting in the wrong thread, posting here because we are already a bit of a friendly community):

dear all, i am sure breeder type people can answer this one. am finishing outdoor kennel for 2 dogs coincident to each other but separated by wire. for the day-run part not sure whether to leave as grass or backfill with some product, for the indoor section i see a lot of people use cement flooring (with dog beds placed on it), same people have dogs with those hideous leather pads on their elbows. some have mentioned those pads are inevitable with age, so don't sweat it, is that true. and what indoor/outdoor floor is best - i don't give a crap about how much, as long as i got the best possible for my dog/s.

also i was going to use wire mesh between the two dogs, so they can see each other during the day. is that better to be solid.

for the outer boundary some kennels have walls as they say dogs respond to outside movement when your not home and bark, so if you limit their vision you don't have a barking dog. i realise this is also a training issue with barking.

thanks any advice