Scott.

How long are the bike rides?
Are there any walks?
If there are is she at heel or out in front.
she isn't listening to the behavior you want because she doesn't respect you as her leader IN THE HOME. She does at the show. She has proven that she can behave...at the show.
You just have to get her to behave in the home.
You need to get AND follow Ed's pack leader video....To the "T". All of it. With both dogs.
So, her bolting out the door IS a big deal.

I can guarantee that if you have small kids in the house you aren't doing what you need to for the dog.
I know this because I wasn't.

Let me tell you Bumble Bee's story....It's a sad story, and all of my fault.
I'm a mom of 4 kids age 13, 11, 10, and 7. We home school and had a farm.
We lived on 40 acres surrounded by 200.
Bumble patrolled all of it free will for varmints, he was our live stock guardian, and herding dog..yes, he could do both.
He was trust worthy and wonderful.
We moved..It was a he!!ish move...one of the worst.
We moved to 4 acres on a road.
we fenced 2 of them and put bee out there with the pyrs, who he helped raise.
He sat at the gate and cried. All the time.
He started jumping the gate and going on the road.
I was busy with the kids and the move and really out of time...so we chained him up right behind the house. He was in the crate or on the chain. It was only for a while......yes I knew better, but my kids needed to come first....I didn't have time...
I knew better, but I wasn't really paying attention. No excuse.
I created a monster. He got dominant with the other dogs, then the kids, then his food, then visitors. He snapped at the kids, snarled if anyone came near his crate if there was food, and lunged at and scratched an autistic kid who had hurt Bumble badly by grabbing him.
Looking at euthanasia, my husband turned to me and said, we did this to him.....you specialize in rehabilitating agressive dogs....what do we do? W can't put him down with out trying.
I can't stress enough, no matter how busy you think you are, be aggressive and deal with this now...if you have to re-home the dog, then so be it, but with young kids in the house, you just can't take chances.
Bumble went into boot camp....we trained him to the treadmill, and worked him on that....social isolation lasted 4 weeks, then we brought him up and started working with him.
He did so very well, I thought that he might possibly work out as my service dog, but it turns out that his temperament is just too dominant.
He sees being with me all the time as a rank issue, and that the others in the family were to be dominated...so he went back to boot camp and is finishing that now.
He is working out great as a supervised pet, who has the least preferred everything, and is understanding his place in the world.

If putting the kids first...as it should be....is causing you to not meet this dog's needs...as it did me....then re home the dog.
If you can find the time...as I did....then get Ed's videos and do it.
Willie

I was thinking about the treadmill, I need to get one. I ran her with the bike last night. Now this morning she is super calm so she is in the house with me. I do plan on keeping her seperated from other dogs pretty much forever. It' jsut the kids I'm conerned about. When my son approahces her she puts ears down, tail down wags happily, I don't see any people issues, just worried they could develop. I'm basically going to try to prevent that excitement by wearing her out and giving her super strong chews toys in the crate to have an outlet to use those jaws.

She's a fighting breed. Dog fighting is what she does, just like police work is what a Czech GSD does and bird hunting is what a Lab does.

Human issues will only develop if you allow them to. The more nervous you are around the dog (always second guessing) the more nervous she's going to be in return.

If you're truly this worried, rehome her asap.

We had a bull terrier when my kids were small. It absolutely loved to fight with a chesapeake which we had at the same time. The stimulus was excitement - excited kids running and laughing, anything. The 4-wheeler sent her into a frenzy. These were gory fights with skin flaps that required antibiotics and suture.
When prevented from fighting the bull terrier would spin in mad circles. Sometimes it would go into the bathtub and spin circles.
She was never the least bit aggressive with the children or their friends.
Good luck with yours. Mine seemed hard-wired to fight.

I have a question about what to do with my aggressive rottweiler puppy. He is 13 weeks old and is out of control. When we take him outside on the leash, he refuses to move, often won't come when called and bites non stop. I realize he is a puppy and play biting is normal, but he attacks and draws blood on a daily basis. We have tried everything and nothing seems to work. We tried the "no bite", we tried yelping like another dog, we tried grabbing his cheeks and looking him in the eye, we have spayed water in his face, we have pinned him down, we have ignored him, put him in his crate, but nothing works. We really need some help. Is this something we should be worried about or will he eventually grow out of it? It is bad enough at 33 pounds, I'm afraid of what will happen when he is 100 pounds. Please help, I don't want to have to get rid of him, but we are at our wit's end.

Edited by Connie Sutherland (07/11/2010 05:06 PM)
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It sounds like you've turned it all into a fight with him. You havent tried to show him whats ok, only no,no,no,,,,,,

Take a look around the forum here, theres a ton of threads on nipping and biting, redirection, etc. Basically, you have to teach him what you do want, not only what you don't.

 Quote: brandon christen

I have a question about what to do with my aggressive rottweiler puppy. He is 13 weeks old and is out of control. When we take him outside on the leash, he refuses to move, often won't come when called and bites non stop.

You have trained a recall at 13 weeks?!

The "bites non-stop" .... Steve mentioned "redirect." I didn't see that mentioned at all in your post.

WELCOME, by the way. You have found a great resource.

e.t.a.
We'd love to see a picture! If you want to post one, here's a forum for an intro and a picture or two:
http://leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/146/page/1

Sounds like a normal high drive pup.
You will be able to do a lot with him.
Get the raising your pup 8 wks to 8 months
http://leerburg.com/120.htm
This should interest you too
http://leerburg.com/117.htm

Brandon,
Hi other Puppy Owner! I have a 9 week old Brittany. He's gotten my husband a few times and drew blood already. I got on here and we now redirect the monkey business (thinking of a nice phrase to take place of the one I want to use) out of him.

So this is the stuff we tried and FAILED. (Note: It seemed when we did the following this he got more not agressive, I want to use Focused.

1. pinching jaw shut till a whine (breeder recommended)
2. patting his tush
3. pulling lip over canine till he yipped
4. pinching lower jaw

I got on here and started reading the E-Book on biting by Ed Frawley http://leerburg.com/pdf/preventingdogbitesinchildren.pdf .

Now this is mainly about kids, but heck if it doesnt apply to us adults. So here is what worked for us.

1. A tired puppy is a HAPPY PUPPY! We play ball and tug his rope bone and just keep him going. When puppies get tired they will stop and lay down where they are. Excersize till he does this.

2. Redirect. When Finn got a body part in his mouth and got too Focused, we stuck his rope bone or nylabone in his mouth to munch on. Rope-bone really works best. Ours is about 1 ft long with 3 knots. I paid liked 1.75 for it.

3. Yelping. For us we us OUCH! Dont move your hand away, its a reflex but this makes them want to go for it again. Leave it there and with the other hand shove a toy in his mouth!

4. We started puppy OB classes at Petsmart. Before you laugh they do marker training. I have Ed's 8 weeks to 8 months video but I needed to do it in person to. So I am using both when training him. Definitly after a 3 days have seen a difference. We practice our Touch, Down (no sit for us for hunting reasons), Look at me, and LOOSE LEASH.

Now when Finn gets excited and starts to munch on body parts have a few toys on the floor. He after about a week of doing this knows "wheres your bone" and when he gets to excited we say that phrase. He goes to his bone.

If he chases the kids and jumps up or gets to mouthy lol he goes in his crate to settle down.


Now you also had the "stubburn puppy" syndrome you mentioned. I had this issue with Finn when we first got him home because we had some major rain storms. My breeder never exposed him to rain..*grumbles*... so we were stuck trying to figure out what to do. What was recommended was to go back to him. Don't pull. You can try to lure him with toy or food. If that doesnt work I am sure someone else has a good suggestion that might work for your pup.

You have had your puppy longer then I have had mine but what I have found is (granted I dont have a working breed of dog in the main sense.) But I do have a hunting breed. These dogs are smart, they need to be, just like your Rott. Give him something to do, mentally and physically this pup needs to be challenged and exhausted. Have Fun doing this with him. Granted Finn and I have a long way to go on our bond (and he still goes after hubby's feet and fingers hehe *evil grin*) but Finn is getting more respectful with me and is starting to show respect towards my kids.

I wish you luck and Post some pics of him We would love to see him. Also, WELCOME! There are alot more people who have alot more advice and experience then I do. But this is what I was told and have found what works with my little munching machine.

Side note. 20 mins before his "bedtime" he gets a bully stick (aka beef pizzle) and he chews himself calm before bed. This really works to settle him down at the end of the day.

GL

mary