Janelle Story Webboard User Reg: 06-15-2005
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I am sorry to hear about the loss of a police dog who was just doing the job he was trained to do. I wish I could buy the officers who shot the scumbag a round of drinks on me.
The reporter was unable to understand the officer's tears? Is that what you're saying?!
Maybe its not how it was intended, but thats certainly the way it came across to me.
Could be that the reporter asked the question just to get the SGT talking about the bond that the officers have with the dogs. I'd hate to think someone is so cold not to understand. It's beyond me how those officers summon the strength to send their dogs into a dangerous situation in the first place - that's got to be an unbelievably tough job to do.
Jason Shipley Webboard User Reg: 05-13-2005
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The reporter was unable to understand the officer's tears? Is that what you're saying?!
Maybe its not how it was intended, but thats certainly the way it came across to me.
I think the reporter knew what he was doing, he redirected the story to the softer loss of a partner side humanizing the dog and eliciting an emotional response from his audience.
Around here PSD's are trained to down and quiet under gunfire and wait for a command from their handler, we are more suburban and in the woods you wouldn't want the dog to give away his and your position. A dog also would not be sent in on a known armed suspect unless there was an immediate treat to the officer. It seems that to send a dog under a porch to collect the guy known to be armed is an unacceptable risk. My understanding of the situation is that SWAT was on scene so the guy wasn't going anywhere. There should have been other remedies for the situation. Now if the guy wasn't thought to be armed the risk would be acceptable.
I know nothing about PPD or police work for that matter, but my fist thought was... why didn't they use good old fashioned tear gas or something. Couldn’t they have done something that was less lethal to the dog and the idiot under the porch?
The dog did his job… Hats off. Very tragic.
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Janelle Story Webboard User Reg: 06-15-2005
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As hard as it is to not second guess in a situation like this, the fact is that I am sure the officers involved made the best decision they could at the time with the information, training, and experience they had. The bottom line is the SOB under the porch was told if he didn't surrender a canine would be sent in to apprehend him and he would be bitten. He made the decision to defy the officers ( who he had already shot at) and shoot the canine when he was deployed. I might be a hard a$$, but I think the guy under the porch got what he deserved and the dog was killed doing his job just like other law enforcement officers before him. That is the worse case scenario when you have to deal with scum as a routine part of your job. It isn't easy for any of them.
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I know nothing about PPD or police work for that matter, but my fist thought was... why didn't they use good old fashioned tear gas or something. Couldn’t they have done something that was less lethal to the dog and the idiot under the porch?
The dog did his job… Hats off. Very tragic.
Coming from someone who is in the military (infantry) and is trained in lethal VS non-lethal tactics, and trained in situations like this, once that guy starts pulling the trigger he has lost his option for non-lethal in "ALMOST" all situations. If they had tear gased that guy out of his little hole, and he came out blindly shooting like a maniac and he is in a populated area like a neighborhood all it takes is one wild or stray shot to enter an innocent home and kill a kid or other innocent person. He was a threat that had to be stopped cold to protect the public.
No one should second guess the dog being sent in. The dogs handler will be dealing with that decision for the rest of his life. Not only was he a police dog, but probably a family pet. My codolences go out to the handler and his family. Ranger thanks for doing your job, and you deserve full honors.
Why not? The scumbag clearly ignores orders to surrender, and shoots at police officers. So you send in a dog in front of a shooting maniac? You don't have to be a cop to question the logic.
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