Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004
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I agree Willie, there are VERY few people that have the ability to sucessfully rehab dogs with serious issues. There are even less people out there that have the resolve to accept the type of LIFEstyle that these kinds of dogs will need to be kept in for the rest of their lives. People tend to think..well he/she has been so good for soo very long now...they must be 'cured' of these ills. NOT!!! Put the dog back into the right/wrong circumstances & it will repeat whatever the 'original learned' behavor was.
At times of stress all creatures man & beast resort to their 'comfort level' of behavior. And there in lies the problem with rehab. Most people CAN'T make that total life committment that is needed to manage this type of dog. The end result is NEVER good for the dog. And in a bite history dog, it is often children that are the subject of that end result.
Gotta get my two cents in this. Here's what I see.
No matter whether something could or could not have been done with this dog in the end, the dog was set up for failure by the op'er.
If after the first week she'd asked any one around here, or in fact any thinking person, for some advise or input she'd been told to keep people away from the dog, period. The dog doesn't like to be pet by strangers. How hard is that to understand?
She knew the history of the dog and yet willingly let a perfect stranger attempt to make nicey nice with the dog. AND WASN'T EVEN READY TO CONTROL THE SITUATION! from the other end of the leash.
Oh my, what a surprise!???
I posted this on the other thread, but wanted to copy it to this thread as well.
I commend anyone for wanting to help dogs in trouble, but have gone through some experiences that have affected my view points.
It is nice that this dog had a good home for several months before he had to be PTS.
I can see both points of view..less stress, PTS right away...this is the one I lean toward now...vs try and give a good home and poss PTS later. I don't support this view now.
I happen to think that when a dog has several bites, then its not responsible to "rehab" them and adopt them.
I was working with that national Eskie rescue on a consultation basis...I worked really hard with a foster person with a dog that had several bites..I told them they could never adopt it out to people with kids, or where kids would come in contact with it.
Several months later they decide that the dog is ready to be adopted.
Several more months later I get a call from an irate upset adoptee.
Turns out that she and her husband were childless, so they had adopted the dog........................only their niece and nephew visited them every weekend..........The dog had bitten one of the kids.
The rescue had not followed my directions and advice and had not been honest with this woman at all.
She had told them that she had young kids around, and they Still adopted the dog to her.
I quit helping this rescue, and this really opened my eyes about rehabbing biters.
Can it be done in most cases?......Yes, but the type of environment the dog will need, and the level of qualification the person handling the dog needs.........in my opinion is just not feasible on a regular basis.
The result from the ensuing mishandling is that children..or other people get bitten again.
I do not find this acceptable.
I feel bad for the dogs that were badly bred, and handled wrong, but in my opinion, people's safety comes first.
I ask, can I guarantee that this client will keep this dog under control? Can they keep this dog away from society?
If not, is it likely that I can find a home for the dog with someone who can?
If the answers are no,then I recommend to euthanize the dog....NOT because it isn't possible to rehab the dog under the right circumstances.....but can the right circumstances be maintained indefinitely?
We had a black Lab when I was a kid...always seemed to be a really nice dog. When I was 5, it attacked me. The story goes that I tried to hug it and it bit the back of my head. I don't remember all that well, but I do remember the drive to the hospital and all the stitches in my head/neck. My Dad didn't want to put the dog down. (um...ok??) So a family member with no kids took the dog. Two years later, he ripped off half the face of a little girl..a neighbor I think.
I feel bad for the dogs that were badly bred, and handled wrong, but in my opinion, people's safety comes first.
I ask, can I guarantee that this client will keep this dog under control? Can they keep this dog away from society?
If not, is it likely that I can find a home for the dog with someone who can?
If the answers are no,then I recommend to euthanize the dog....NOT because it isn't possible to rehab the dog under the right circumstances.....but can the right circumstances be maintained indefinitely?
I absolutely agree. There end up being to many "what if's" in the end, for any dog with a questionable history. True, some dogs that have bitten can be controlled or placed in a responsible home that will control the circumstances, as long as it doesn't deter the adoptee from living their life. But that's not always the case.
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