let us say that I am teaching my puppy to heel, touch pad, backup etc. Let us say that I have still not named the behaviour, should I be teaching the three behaviours in three separate sessions or can I reward the desired behaviour all in one session. In other words, can I reward my puppy for touch pad, then backup then heel, then touch pad then may be two back ups 5 heels etc? Will this confuse the puppy or is it Ok to just reward any desired behaviour during one session.
Typically I teach commands individually, once they know each I then move into combining. It may depend on the dog, to be able to pick up the differences and your ability to mark the behavior(s) timley. I have had to 'un-do' things I've marked and I hate doing that. For me it feels like I have to then use the negative markers for something I've created and then it takes longer to achieve the goal.
Good question, looking forward to other input...
Edited by aimee pochron (08/20/2010 12:51 PM)
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My problem is that when I am training the backup command (dog moving in reverse) if my puppy offers a perfect side sit or a perfect platz , do I still reward it or do I ignore it. The important point being that she does not know the platz or the side sit ( the starting position for heel ) either by command.
While I am trying to teach one new behaviour, if my dog offers a different new behaviour that is desirable do I gnore the second behaviour or do I still reward it. Remember that I am not asking the dog any behaviour by name/command.
My problem is that when I am training the backup command (dog moving in reverse) if my puppy offers a perfect side sit or a perfect platz , do I still reward it or do I ignore it. The important point being that she does not know the platz or the side sit ( the starting position for heel ) either by command.
While I am trying to teach one new behaviour, if my dog offers a different new behaviour that is desirable do I gnore the second behaviour or do I still reward it. Remember that I am not asking the dog any behaviour by name/command.
Keep in mind that anything you mark and reward, you are training. So if you want a back up and mark / reward a sit, you are not training the back up. When introducing a new behavior and Falcon offers one of his old ones or something new I'm not going for - I give a friendly "nope" and start again. (Unless of course the new behavior he offers is one I love, then I could mark THAT and continue training THAT for a while).
I taught back up between a wall and the dining room table so that Falcon could ONLY go back. Sideways was not an option. We started at one end with him standing and I just gently walked toward him, hands at my side. The moment he took a slight movement backwards, I marked and rewarded. (I had found that if I tried luring him with a treat over his head, I got a sit instead of any movement backwards.)
What do you guys do when your dog is so excited during training that she keeps jumping up and down like a ping pong ball. Is it time out? Put her away? So far I say a "Cut it out" in a stern tone and try to carry on, I dont want to keill her enthusiasm.
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What do you guys do when your dog is so excited during training that she keeps jumping up and down like a ping pong ball. Is it time out? Put her away? So far I say a "Cut it out" in a stern tone and try to carry on, I dont want to keill her enthusiasm.
is this right?
I have a terrier so this, exceited behavior is very common. I generally just ignore it and wait for the behavior I want from her. At a year old, she's still very young and puppy like so, for me at least, ignoring behavior I don't want works best most of the time. Of course if the behavior is something I consider totally unacceptable then I verbally correct her to put a stop to that behavior.
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I usually move on to another game/trick she knows for a few minutes if she's too worked up to focus then come back to it. My pups are very soft, a half way serious verbal talking to shuts them down which is great when we get to corrections (No need to raise my voice) but bad for training new behaviors.
Sometimes even a quick jaunt around the block is enough to get the excitement jitters out.
What do you guys do when your dog is so excited during training that she keeps jumping up and down like a ping pong ball. Is it time out? Put her away? So far I say a "Cut it out" in a stern tone and try to carry on, I dont want to keill her enthusiasm.
is this right?
You definitely don't want to kill the enthusiasm, but I'd give her an opportunity to physically burn off a bit of the energy prior to training. Not to the point of being tired, but enough so that she can better concentrate on you! Play ball, run, etc... for a few minutes to see if that helps. Dogs with drive and energy are easier to train than a dog with no drive, so at least this is a good problem to have.
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