Matt Lang wrote 09/03/2014 01:17 AM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393342 - 09/03/2014 01:17 AM
Matt Lang Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2008 Posts: 294 Loc: Northern California Offline	Well (thanks for the bump Connie) I opted against the extra xrays. The tooth seemed to be ok (yay!) so they sealed it and we'll need to xray again in 6 months or so to make sure it's not changing and getting worse. I could always do elbows, etc, then. I have to "be careful with bones" and they suggested dental chews and tooth brushing. That's a bummer but better than having to pull the tooth. I figure I can still feed him game hens and chicken RMB. My cats eat those so I doubt they'll be a problem for his tooth. The other good news is they sampled his few little fatty bumps and they were all benign. So other than the $$, it was generally a good day at the vet. The biggest issue at the moment is that even though it has been 12 hrs, he's still spacey and uncomfortable from the sedation. He's fully coordinated though, so I think that's a good sign. Hopefully he'll be back to normal by morning.
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Cheri Grissom wrote 09/03/2014 07:26 AM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393344 - 09/03/2014 07:26 AM
Cheri Grissom Webboard User Reg: 09-30-2010 Posts: 2610 Loc: Michigan Offline	That's good news on both the tooth and the fatty tumors! Logan had a similar reaction to the anesthesia. He's had to be under anesthesia twice this year (different reasons, different vets, and different types of anesthesia). Each time, he was spacey and restless for a good 24 hours, and it was still another day or so after that before he really seemed like himself. I don't know how much disorientation is normal, but I mentioned it to both vets and they didn't seem concerned. If you continue to have any concerns, it wouldn't hurt to make a call to your vet. I hope Dante will soon be back to himself and that tooth won't give him any more problems!
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Matt Lang wrote 09/03/2014 02:18 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393350 - 09/03/2014 02:18 PM
Matt Lang Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2008 Posts: 294 Loc: Northern California Offline	Hi Cheri - Thanks for the note about your experience with anesthesia. Dante's doing better this morning but still not himself. Since he's showing improvement though, I'm optimistic that another 24-48 hrs will do the trick. He's been fairly miserable so I am now forewarned to sedate him as infrequently as possible - he's probably really sensitive to it.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/03/2014 10:06 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393359 - 09/03/2014 10:06 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31573 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Matt, can you find out what the G/A was? We have a bunch of info here about G/A that's very fast in leaving the dog's system. I'll dig it up for you if you bump this with info about what he G/A protocol was. Also, tooth-brushing doesn't have to be a downer at all. Want some info about ways to make it pleasant for both of you?
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Lori Hall wrote 09/03/2014 11:03 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #393360 - 09/03/2014 11:03 PM
Lori Hall Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2007 Posts: 1039 Loc: So. California coast Offline	I brush Kasey's teeth with our Braun Oral B! He lays on his side and I do one side, then roll him over and do the other. It gets the teeth really clean, very quickly and he's happy cause he likes the taste of the doggy toothpaste A LOT!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/05/2014 04:49 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Lori Hall ] #393392 - 09/05/2014 04:49 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31573 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	My dogs like it too (and I agree that it's that disgusting meat- or shrimp-flavored toothpaste that they love! :lol . I do them on their sides, as Lori described. There are both regular brushes and also little rubbery fingertip brushes; one of mine does way better without the brush handle, so I use both, but over the long run, I have used the fingertip ones way more. I also use an enzymatic gumline squirter product (same company, called Virbac/C.E.T). I would like to do it every day, but in actuality I probably do it three times a week. I used markers to train this, and, just like claws, I start the training with ONE TOOTH, in the front, followed by good reward, and that's it until hours (or even a day) later. I never have to restrain the dogs for this, because they all learned it pleasantly and (at first) in minute time increments. These links are to individual posts that may contain more info for you: http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=24219&page=1#251542 http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=24219&page=1#251644 http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=27167&page=1#291564 http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=27167&page=2
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Tracy Collins wrote 09/06/2014 09:23 AM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393409 - 09/06/2014 09:23 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Petzlife is another brand of enzymatic dog tooth gel stuff. That's the one we use and the salmon flavor is tolerated quite well by my dogs. I like the 3-headed tooth brushes for dogs. Brushes all sides of the tooth in one go. The gum line is the area to focus the cleaning effort. You can also scale tartar off yourself once you get a dog comfortable with you fooling with his mouth. By trial and error I've found the best tool for this is a teeny flat-blade screwdriver. You can use it like a little paint scraper or chisel to flick off any hard calculus along the gum line. Safer than an actual dental pick tool which is pointy and sharp. A small flat screwdriver is blunt, and the flat edge is a good scraper. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Bob Scott wrote 09/06/2014 11:43 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393430 - 09/06/2014 11:43 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	The "teeny flat-blade screwdriver" is what my vet showed me 30+ yrs ago. I always helps when you get the pup used to handling it's mouth while they are pups but pretty easy with markers even as an adult. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Lori Hall wrote 09/07/2014 11:32 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Tracy Collins ] #393442 - 09/07/2014 11:32 PM
Lori Hall Webboard User Reg: 06-12-2007 Posts: 1039 Loc: So. California coast Offline	Quote: Tracy Collins Petzlife is another brand of enzymatic dog tooth gel stuff. That's the one we use and the salmon flavor is tolerated quite well by my dogs. I like the 3-headed tooth brushes for dogs. Brushes all sides of the tooth in one go. The gum line is the area to focus the cleaning effort. You can also scale tartar off yourself once you get a dog comfortable with you fooling with his mouth. By trial and error I've found the best tool for this is a teeny flat-blade screwdriver. You can use it like a little paint scraper or chisel to flick off any hard calculus along the gum line. Safer than an actual dental pick tool which is pointy and sharp. A small flat screwdriver is blunt, and the flat edge is a good scraper. Oh wow, what a great tip! I never would have thought of that! I've been using a doggy scrapper, I'm going to try this!
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Matt Lang wrote 09/11/2014 02:18 PM Re: Dog Teeth [Re: Matt Lang ] #393533 - 09/11/2014 02:18 PM
Matt Lang Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2008 Posts: 294 Loc: Northern California Offline	Thanks for all the tips everybody. I've been really busy this past week and haven't had time to post but I'll let you know how it goes once I start on the dental training. It took approximately 3 days before Dante returned to normal from the sedation. The procedure was early in the day on Tues, and I'd say he was mostly normal by Thurs evening and definitely back to himself by Friday. I'm not sure what they used for sedation Connie, but I'll try to find out. It'd be on my invoice but I accidentally left it in the vet's office so I don't have it to check.
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