Danielle Haffner Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006
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Just a question. I am sitting here with a friend and fellow dog enthusiast in a heated discussion and we cant agree on the answer. So I figured I would turn to all of you.
Are there some dogs that no matter how good the training, need to remain on e collar in public for off leash work forever? Meaning, you have a dog with a high drive, mild to medium dog aggression and need firm reminders from time to time for idiot behaviors. Can someone please give a little input.
I probably would not have my dog off leash in public if I need to give him "firm" reminders for exhibiting "idiot" behaviors. You can never be sure of the reaction of the people you will come across and may be asking for trouble. For me personally when I am out in public my dog is not off leash and is wearing a prong collar. I can't control the public so I want to be able to control my dog.
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If you have trained your dog with a remote collar why would you EVER TAKE IT OFF LEASH in public without the cllar. It would be a huge handler mistake to do this. Its the best insurance policy you have.
i would never go out with out an e-collar at a MINIMUM. i know a police officer that trained his dog with an e collar. he was in a foot pursuit when the guy jumped a fence. the dog climbed it and cleared it. when he tried his foot sliped and he inpailed himself by the fence post (it was a fence like a yard fence). he ended up having to fire his weapon into the air cause he thought the dog was trained good enough to not need it so he took it off. yell the dog didnt come back when called cause he was in such high drive. since he fired his weapon he was put on suspention until the investigation was completed. of course nothing came f it but with that said i would never take a dog out with out AT LEAST an e collar if the dog has been trained with it.
good point. i took my dog out tonight to firework show. about 90% of japense are scared of her. the other 10% were walking up behind her and started peting her from behind with out me or her knowing it. YES I HAD HER ON LEASH AND YES I ASKED THEM TO STOP <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, i know somebody would ask, but that just shows people can be complete and utter morons.
Danielle Haffner Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006
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Thank You. I now win a dinner at the restaurant of my choosing! I didn't want to get into it any more with him. So we made a friendly bet. I thank alll that responded.
"Hm, the rear-end of a dog I don't know. Might as well go up and start molesting the poor thing, right?"
My God, people can be so ignorant. Normally I'd say, "If you wouldn't do it to a person, don't do it to a dog" but I've had some pretty disturbing moments with drunk men at shows before, so I guess I can't even use that as an example.
To be on topic with the rest of the thread: If you use an e-collar for training, use an e-collar for the public.
Don't want to get off topic but....the only time people will absolutely leave my dog alone is if I put a muzzle on her. If you think about this it is amazing...they can't bite then!!! People are more afraid of a dog with a muzzle on as opposed to me saying "my dog might bite please don't pet her". Doesn't make sense.
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