How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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I read on an earlier thread today that a woman had taught her dog to bark when she whispers "What's that?" I think this is an awesome idea. I've heard that teaching a dog to "quiet" requires teaching them to "speak" or "bark" first? Is this right? My dog is a pet, not a working dog, but I think this would be a great command to teach him.
How do you teach your dog to "bark", and how do you teach it to "quiet" on command? (Or where can I find this info?) This isn't covered in the Leerburg DVD's that I have.
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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I was just about to ask the same thing. I want recommendations on the same subject as I just rescued a gsd who barks for attention and barks more than I would like. So great question, I can't wait to read ideas.
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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I was just about to ask the same thing. I want recommendations on the same subject as I just rescued a gsd who barks for attention and barks more than I would like. So great question, I can't wait to read ideas.
You and Kori have different questions, I believe.
If you want to the dog to alert-bark, then you don't want to reprimand for barking. Instead, you want to mark and reward for the quiet command.
It's important to be really consistent with it, I think, because prolonged barking is rewarding to lots of dogs, so it isn't like some behaviors that will extinguish when you ignore and don't reward them.
The first time, you might have a high-value treat ready in front of the dog, so that when he stops barking to smell/eat it, you can mark the silence and then reward with that treat.
You might slowly and gradually increase the length of time before the silence is marked and praised/rewarded. But I'd be sure first that the dog really gets it about what "quiet" means.... that it doesn't just mean "Treat alert!" So I wouldn't exhibit the treat any longer once I've successfully used it to get the first "quiet."
JMO. I'm sure there are other ways, too.
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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Hey, I think my thread just got hi-jacked. LOL! Just kidding - but I would still like to know how to teach the bark and quiet commands. :-)
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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How do you teach your dog to "bark"...
The way I did it was: I created a scenario where I knew my dog would bark. You have to know your dog to figure this out. As soon as he barks, mark and treat. After doing this a couple of times, give the bark command and wait for him to bark. If he doesn't do it right away, you might want to repeat the command. When he barks, mark and praise (yes!! good bark!).
Connie took care of the quiet thing, but just so you know, I was unable to teach my dog to be quiet, so I stopped practicing the bark command. He went through the offering commands phase, and since bark was one of the commands he knew, he would sit, lay down and bark in a matter of 2 seconds, and frankly I couldn't take it.
Hope this helps.
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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Yes, as Richard points out, don't teach bark unless you want bark. I no longer say to teach bark in order to teach no-bark.
Bark is self-rewarding to many dogs. If you like no-bark, then be careful what you ask for. :>
JMO.
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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You can mark the behavior when you catch him barking. What I have done also is have a really good reward, chicken works well here, and tell the dog speak by holding the chicken just out of reach to build some frustration. I also bark while telling them speak. Usually at some point they will whine or make some sort of noise and earn the reward. Once they start doing that then they start only getting reinforced for a real bark. I haven't really tried it yet with Jerri Lee but I built on speak with my Dobe to teach her how to count. She would bark once for each treat I held. Then you asked her to take one away, which she grabbed and ate, then ask how many are left where she would bark once for each treat left.
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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You can mark the behavior when you catch him barking. What I have done also is have a really good reward, chicken works well here, and tell the dog speak by holding the chicken just out of reach to build some frustration. I also bark while telling them speak. Usually at some point they will whine or make some sort of noise and earn the reward. Once they start doing that then they start only getting reinforced for a real bark. I haven't really tried it yet with Jerri Lee but I built on speak with my Dobe to teach her how to count. She would bark once for each treat I held. Then you asked her to take one away, which she grabbed and ate, then ask how many are left where she would bark once for each treat left.
Lisa
Wow, that's very nice! To get the right count, did you indicate each treat and ask for bark with each nod or point or whatever?
Or do you say the number? If you say the number, how do you get the dog to be aware that the command is coming but not start barking before he knows which number you're going to say?
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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I read of a horse who could also supposedly count (and even do math). The owner would give him numbers to add or subtract and the horse would paw the ground until he reached the correct result.
The horse had remarkable accuracy and everyone (including the owner) was astonished.
Turns out the clever horse was simply reading his owner's body language. The owner would tense up - very subtly, no one noticed this, even him - while the horse was pawing the ground and would relax as soon as the horse had pawed the correct number of times.
That's how the horse knew when to stop "counting"...
They realized this when the horse could not count out anything at all when he couldn't see his owner.
Amazing how animals can pick up the slightest physical cues from us, even when we're not aware that we are giving out any cues
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Re: How do you teach a dog to bark on command?
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OHHHHHH! Oh, I get it!
So ---- a subtle nod when the dog has reached the right number of barks!
You could start with a pronounced nod to teach the trick, and gradually make it more and more subtle.
Wow, I like that.
Bob Scott told me a couple of others; "Say your prayers" was lots of fun to teach and then to demonstrate. :>
But I don't want to hijack any more than I already have, so back to bark and quiet. Richard and Lisa have good points for teaching bark.
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