This isn't an issue (less drama than some threads ) but more a curiousity question. I have always boundary trained our dogs. Our situation living on a postage stamp on a country road requires it. Depending on the dog I have used long lines at first and combined with teaching them that the road is a filthy evil devil that must not be entered. (slapping pavement and yelling has occurred.....;o) possibly a collar correction in the last stages of proofing and With Border Collies and Bullmastiffs it involved more walking the perimeter with them as both breeds seemed to absorb a lot of the idea that way. And the Beagle X Boxer was never off line as he was a bone head that thought with his nose most of the time.

Training finished the dogs are still NEVER unsupervised.(so no worries there)
The road is a fast busy country stretch that already has injured or killed enough human lives within 100ft of us. Not to mention insured that we get a new mailbox every year or two.


I happened on a 'clicker' site (I hate that word but it is what it called itself) that trained by flagging the perimeter, teaching the dog to touch and return from the flag and viola.I had not tried PR or markers in this setting but am open to it.

Would like to hear results and methods as I am always up for learning and couldn't fine a thread or ebook or anything with this particularly.

I don't know that I would trust it outside when heavy traffic is involved, but a roommate in college trained her GSD not to enter certain rooms -- my and our other roommate's bedrooms, the bathroom. She did this by placing a broom handle across the doorway and working with him fist on leash, then off-leash. He was well trained before I ever moved in, so I don't know all the steps she followed. I always thought it was neat.

She's also the first person I knew who taught her dog not to accept food from strangers or to eat anywhere but in his crate. She was the only person allowed to treat him. She was afraid someone would poison him with enticing food out of fear of him being a "mean" dog. He was so opposite that, but man he was a fine PPD! First one I ever saw, and I fell in love immediately.

Back to the road.... I personally would probably put up an electric fence to keep them off the road. You can purchase springs to attach at the posts across the driveway so you can drive over the single wire, but set at just the right height they can't go over or under.

I'm thankful we live on a large acreage and have no traffic worries!

It isn't that I don't trust my training as we have been here 24 years and had at least three dogs at any given time. I would simply like to hear about and learn.

Electric is really a non issue since I trust my training as much as a dog with a zap(though there was a time with a pig fence and a dog that wouldn't go to that part of mom's farm EVER again...and since we have dogs ranging from 100 # to 4 # it isn't really possible without a grid and that would be a fence and that would be wonderful, but not possible due to property lines, natural obstacles (12' sheer drop to a shale glade)and similar.

Like I said, not an issue, but a learning question.

Though the example with the broom handle made me remember Basher (the BMF in the pict) and his love of comfort. We blocked off the couch with a thirty pound oak chair.....he would pull it down, take the blow and then get onto the coach.

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Edited by Connie Sutherland (03/06/2010 05:53 PM)
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 Quote: Sonya Gilmore

.... I happened on a 'clicker' site (I hate that word but it is what it called itself) that trained by flagging the perimeter, teaching the dog to touch and return from the flag and viola.I had not tried PR or markers in this setting but am open to it. ... Would like to hear results and methods as I am always up for learning and couldn't fine a thread or ebook or anything with this particularly. ....

The training starts indoors (or it would for me ; no distractions for getting started) with a strip of cloth or whatever you want to use outdoors later.

Teach the dog to target the cloth strip, maybe tied to a broom; mark and reward for touching nose to the cloth and coming back to you for the reward.

I read about this in Karen Pryor's book, I think. I can probably dig up something online; I'll look.

Was this the site you already saw?

http://www.clickertraining.com/node/2409

Sonya, I offer my deepest apologizes .... (mod note: unintended post deleted)

I'm sending you a private message ....

Paula

Edited by Connie Sutherland (03/06/2010 05:55 PM)
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Yes Connie and I have a couple Pryor's books that I haven't read in forever. Guess I will.
I guess I wondered if this is a solid way to teach boundarys in the yard. I figured if folks here had luck with a method it was likely better than mine or certainly something to learn from. Since I have a motley crew of dogs different things work for different individuals.
Do any of Leerburgs DVDs have anything like it?
Also since I run a boarding kennel I get asked for a lot of training advice. People meet my dogs there and marvel that my dogs don't run off and can behave so assume I can help them.

Growing up we had a Sheltie and she was only allowed on the tile floors, no bedrooms. She quickly learned her boundaries and we could leave the doors open & she wouldn't come in the rooms.

I had an Aussie that we trained not to leave the yard when the gate across the driveway was open. Even if people walking dogs passed by, he would not leave the yard.

Hi i am new in this forum and i do not know if someone can help me. I am in Germany and i am not really good in english. I have 2 dobermann in Philippines. 1 is 5 yrs old ( Diesel ) i adopt this dog becuase the owner has no time and he is always alone and only in the cage and the other 1 is 5 months old ( Princess ) i buy last week.. I have no idea what is the first dvd i need to buy. i prepare dvd becuase i want to see examples and i want to send the dvd to Philippines and second i am not really good in reading english. I was thinking Princess to be train, the person with my dog now telling me that my Dob someetimes listen sometimes not. I hope i can order the right dvd for me. I have 2000 sqmtrs for my dogs and since 2003 i have 7 Shih-Tzu now i have dobermann i have headache because Diesel do not like the male Shih-Tzu. so i have to separate and 1 in the cage but my Shih-Tzu never in cage before so he started to get crazy. I have idea 100 sqmrt like a cage. if the male Shih-Tzu outside Diesel stay in this cage. but what happen Diesel is not in a good mood. I do not know if this is a big mistakes what i did 2 diff. kinds of dog. Please i need help what should i do..thank you ... i hope my english is not toooo bad :-)