I just found the leerburg site and have been reading but so far have not found much on if or if not to vaccinate. I did find that leerburg does not. My question is : If a person is traveling into other countries is it realistic not to vaccinate? Not even talking about the fact of borders wanting papers... If you live in one place I could maybe see that working... but if you travel over three countries ??? The germs are new all the time, puppies that don't get to 1 month of age in places. Even if my dog is from the U.S, what chance will it have in travel if I don't vaccinate? I travel from TX, through Mexico and in Guatemala. Zuki (my pup of 10 months) goes with me and my family. I don't like using Mexico or Guatemalan vets because most don't have real training. However I don't see as where I have a choice when I have been in Guatemala per say, for over a year and she will need a shot OR no shot and maybe she will or will not get sick and die. Tell me what you would do or what you think...Thanks
Aren't there all bunch of rules about vaccination and travel to different countries? You might have no choice. You probably want to call both consulates and find out from them because they might not even let you on the plane if traveling internationally.
I personally have an awful experience with vaccines and if I wouldn't have to I wouldn't. Now if there is no choice then I probably would. You might also want to look at what kind of dog diseases they get over there. Maybe the vaccines here don't even cover whatever they have there. Maybe it's different strains of the disease. I am not an expert on it. But honestly we did not take our dogs to Europe because where we were going they wanted all this nonsense and we went for four weeks so it simply did not make any sense. We just left them here in the US with someone. If you want to take the dogs with you you will have to follow the rules of whatever country you are traveling to.
well the problem in my case is that I don't live in a permanent place. Mission work is what I do so I can't leave her "home" cause there isn't one. Parvo, Distemper are the most common in Mexico. There are few pups that make it past 1 month. In Guatemala there are not so many disease problems.
Most countries require rabies vaccine and a statement from your veterinarian that the dog is free of infectious/contagious disease, but historically (and you obviously must check the consulate everywhere you are planning to travel) there was no requirement for DHLP-Parvo.
It's also important to see if the US will let you bring your dog back IN from some places-w/o quarantine--e.g.foot and mouth was present in some SA countries, and importation was restricted in the past.
IMO it would be foolish to take a dog w/o distemper protection to these places. The virus is really not treatable, even with the very best Rx and a ton of supportive care only a few lucky dogs survive, and most of those are felt to have had some pre-exposure immunity, whether it be from maternal antibody or natural challenge.
I know from experience that Mexico is where I see LOTS of sick and dying dog, it is also the only border that has ever asked to see papers in 9 years of my traveling through. Rabies is the only thing they have checked for. On the US crossing all they do is say "what a pretty dog!" Guatemala says "does it bite?" Are vaccines that dangerous? which are the most problematic and less necessary? I bought a puppy in Mexico a few years ago and it died at about 2 months old from parvo or the treatment of it. The vet gave an overdose I believe.
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007
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Hi Eliza,
Here is a thread about the current recommendations by Dr. Jean Dodds, who is well-respected authority on canine vaccinations.
This would be a reasonable protocol for you to follow for your pup.
To minimize effects of vaccinations, don't give multiple vaccinations at one time, and never vaccinate when your pup is sick. Depending on where you are, you should be able to get a rabies vaccination that is good for 3 years. (this varies from state to state). Ask your vet which type he provides and if 3 year is available in your state.
Here in the US, to vaccinate or not is an interesting discussion. In places where dogs are dying of distemper, IMO you've just got to get the shot because the risk of the wild type virus SO outweighs any risk of vaccine related problems. It's the only way to provide protection. Sick one day, dead the next=street virus.
Please excuse the rant--but I have been the vet people called lame when their puppy died because THEY didn't vaccinate. I am not open minded on this subject....How often to vaccinate? Certainly not every year, not in the US, that's crazy. But the Dodds vaccine protocol would protect your dog for a lifetime of trips to distemper endemic areas.
Re: I am not open minded on this subject...
well, I don't think it's about an open mind. It's about what is right for different situations and different dogs. And everyone needs to decide about the risks and benefits. While some choices are wise in one situation the same choice would be outright stupid in another. There are risks either way and everyone needs to weigh their own set of circumstances.
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