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#301471 - 11/01/2010 10:56 PM |
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Did any of you see the Dog Whisperer episode that aired last Friday? It was done to educate the public about the wolf hybrids that have become so popular, and how it's not fair to the animals to be breeding domestic dogs with wolves. They had 3 different families that had these 'dogs' and were having all kinds of aggression problems with them.
Cesar took a young woman who is a wolf expert/behaviorist with him and she taught him how wolves behave and react differently than dogs. It was very interesting - I had never really seen these hybrids before and didn't know how they behaved in relation to a domestic dog. I'm sure they will be re-running the episode all week if anyone is interested in seeing it.
I guess it has become a big problem with people just thinking that these hybrids are so beautiful and breeders doing it just to make a lot of money off people who don't really know what they are going to be getting. Sad for the dogs!
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#301475 - 11/02/2010 12:18 AM |
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i thnk we are going to be hearing alot more from our little wolf expert bet you she will have her own show soon
Ashley
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#301484 - 11/02/2010 07:17 AM |
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It is sad for the dogs. These "breeds" (if you want to call them an actual breed) are way more work then, IMO, is what the average household can accomodate. Heck most owners cant handle the regular dogs they have now a days (present Leerburg company excluded), much less a hybrid.
I did watch the episode and I agree this woman just may have her own show pretty soon. She had a lot of knowledge and that was very helpful to hybrid owners.
I was a bit surprised that Cesar knew as little as he did about the breed and how to work with them. I would have assumed with his knowledge of pack structure that he would have been a little more knowledgable on the wolf it self, but at least he is learning and not giving out wrong information  .
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#301487 - 11/02/2010 08:32 AM |
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Wolf hybrids were popular in Mn in the early l990s. I had occasion to give them rabies shots. THey were never "examined".
The ones I saw were "stiff" in the exam room. No panting, very little movement. MUCH bigger than a Malamute,long and thin and tall, super dense heavy coat, not "pretty", no feathering, white and grey, no brown, huge front feet that pointed out,elbows "in", the feet seemed way too big for the dog, more like a growing pups feet. THe tail was carried low, did not wag. They gave no "greeting". Their eyes were yellow. They kept their eyes on you as you drew up the vaccine. We would open the exam door, to show them an escape route, and vaccinate them in the thigh,the owner holding the collar tight against his leg.
The senior partner decided it was too risky to work with them and we stopped seeing them. The dogs never actually did anything in the clinic that I knew about, but they gave off a bad vibe, and owning them became illegal.
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#301499 - 11/02/2010 10:28 AM |
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The way you describe the front end (toes out, elbows in, narrow chest) along with yellow eyes was the clear-cut way we identified a couple hybrids at FurryTale once. I had to spend 4 hours in the pasture ignoring them for the alpha female to acknowledge me. Once she did, and I gained her respect, I could not say hi to any other dog in her presence. Severe guarding behavior. Man, she was beautiful, but just looked WILD.
Betty, I don't blame your senior partner for deciding not to see them! It'd worry me! In my time as a vet tech, I've never had to meet one in a exam room- that be very different then a 2 acre pasture waiting for the 'dog' to come to you on it's own terms. Those 2 guys we had would have been flat out dangerous to vaccinate.
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#301516 - 11/02/2010 01:48 PM |
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I didn't see that episode, but I fostered a wolf hybrid for about a year and a half, and I'm very adamant about people not owning them. They are not dogs, nor do they act like dogs. The one I had I received at about 8 months, and at that age, acted like a typical puppy. At about a year and a half, the change was quick and dramatic. I was only supposed to have him for a short time, but couldn’t find anyone qualified to handle him. He ended up going to a lady who owns several wolfs and hybrids on several hundred acres. I have a friend who currently owns a hybrid, and has had her for 10 years…he is very outspoken on the topic, and believes the “breed” should be outlawed, as do I.
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#301518 - 11/02/2010 03:00 PM |
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I have a friend who currently owns a hybrid, and has had her for 10 years…he is very outspoken on the topic, and believes the “breed” should be outlawed, as do I.
Why, specifically?
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#301520 - 11/02/2010 03:31 PM |
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Because IMO, and I'm sure in others opinions, they are not what people think they are; dogs. They are wolves and so many people think they can handle this "dog" that chew everything (even chainlink), eats everythin (all plants included), wants to explore and hunt all the time, from my understanding find it difficult to get along with other dogs, and is extremely difficult to contain unless you have an 8+ foot concrete "fence".
They need extreme amounts of exercise and the basic pack structure we all know and love is not what they follow by. Yes it is pack structure but it is also much more. The things we use to become pack leaders take a long, long time to take effect.
They are a lot of work; can it be done? Yes. Is it worth it? Depends on how dedicated you are. Is it something we want to become as common as a GSD? No. To many people who have regular dogs cannot handle the amount of exercise and mental stimulation it needs much less a hybrid who needs 10 times that.
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#301521 - 11/02/2010 03:39 PM |
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I can't imagine how horrible it would be for the wolf hybrid put into a situation where it could never be what it was created to be. How frustrating, how lonely for it, how sufficating it would be!
Sharon Empson
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#301523 - 11/02/2010 03:43 PM |
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I have a friend who currently owns a hybrid, and has had her for 10 years…he is very outspoken on the topic, and believes the “breed” should be outlawed, as do I.
Why, specifically?
They are in fact illegal in many parts of this country.
http://www.hybridlaw.com/
Ed has an article on the LB site that details why they should be illegal and explains why no threads advocating having wolf crosses in the home are permitted on the board. I can't find the article right now, but I will.
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