Re: kidney failure ....... ?
[Re: Michael_Wise ]
#313849 - 01/27/2011 03:48 PM |
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"Just so that all of you know, if I did not have a strong opposition in my family, I would have tried to give her colloidal silver and maybe some antibiotics and help her beat this."
Then she would have died a miserable death.
You did the right (the ONLY) thing. This negative non-20/20 hindsight is nothing but emotional and mental poison. JMO.
I'm pretty non-pharma-oriented, but I try to have some balance and to know when western med is needed, and it was needed here.
Colloidal silver is an interesting topic on which I've done some research, pro and con.
One thing I know about it is that "colloidal silver and maybe some antibiotics" is not well thought out. It interacts with several meds, including, just for example, tetracycline.
And no, the spay will not do what you are worried about. It will have zero effect on her personality at this stage.
If I were you, I'd focus more on her recovery. Continued negative focus on what was required to save her life (my strong opinion, though I am not a health professional) is counterproductive for you and for her.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313851 - 01/27/2011 03:53 PM |
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Amen! If there is anything right now that is going to alter her personality, it would be a constant focus on what could have been instead of what is in front of you.
A negative pack leader can for sure affect a dog's personality.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313852 - 01/27/2011 03:54 PM |
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...If there is anything right now that is going to alter her personality, it would be a constant focus on what could have been instead of what is in front of you.
A negative pack leader can for sure affect a dog's personality.
I'd write this down and paste it up all over the place.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313853 - 01/27/2011 03:59 PM |
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Doctor called. Drina opened her eyes after the surgery but is still not awake completely. He said that there indeed was an infection as he predicted. We will be able to see her tomorrow.
Just so that all of you know, if I did not have a strong opposition in my family, I would have tried to give her colloidal silver and maybe some antibiotics and help her beat this. I know that most of you don't agree, but I don't think that this surgery is a natural solution - it will dramatically change her personality and self confidence, change her life. If it was necessary at this stage, it is strictly my fault.
Very glad that this has been taken care of and that she is now in recovery!
Surgery was not a natural solution (The natural solution would have been to let her die a horrible death from this infection), but it was the solution that SAVED HER LIFE. Period. Without it she'd most likely be dead pretty shortly. No amount of collidal silver is going to cure a severe case of pyometa.
The only thing that she is going to feel is that she will soon begin to feel better. She will want to take part in life again. She will be her normal happy self. You usually see zero personality differences in normal female dogs that are spayed as adults.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313854 - 01/27/2011 04:05 PM |
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In pyometra the womb has become swollen as though the dog was pregnant, but instead of pups it is filled with a foul smelling pus. Because the uterus has blood supply wired for developing pups, the poisons spreads all thru the dog. The womb becomes thin walled and basically rotten.
Treatments to try to save the uterus have been tried, including giving drugs which open the cervix and cause the womb to contract. These treatments do not usually work, and they are dangerous if the dog is already ill.
Colloidal silver is a miraculous medication for bad burns, cuts, many other things.
But in this case IMO you would have killed your dog, absolutely no doubt about it. She is likely still in danger.
Whatever the outcome you can be confident that you did exactly the right thing here. There is nothing else to do, it's like gangrene, it's got to be cut away and removed for life to go on.
You did the right thing, the only thing. Good for you to take her to someone who could help her.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313880 - 01/27/2011 06:13 PM |
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Doctor called and said that she is "unbelievable" - he said that he had worked with many dogs in his life, but never seen anything like this. She is like a human he said, asking him with her eyes about "where is my family?". I will try to take her home tomorrow, we will keep her in our bedroom. She will recover much better if we are around, I think. I will see what the doctor says.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313882 - 01/27/2011 06:28 PM |
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"Whatever the outcome you can be confident that you did exactly the right thing here. There is nothing else to do, it's like gangrene, it's got to be cut away and removed for life to go on."
Gangrene ... yes, a good analogy. No matter what happens now, you did the only thing, the right thing. You did right for your dog.
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313885 - 01/27/2011 06:51 PM |
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This was maybe the only solution, but we missed the opportunity earlier, when the infection was not as bad.
Also, I truly believe that dogs, like humans, get sick when they have some psychological problems also. Drina's problem is her daughter who is a bully. I probably did not do a good job separating them and protecting smaller Drina. I even tried to mention this to the doctor (the first one, female), she didn't even blink her eye and treated me like a lunatic (just like my wife does).
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313886 - 01/27/2011 06:57 PM |
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Drina has a daughter? She has had a litter in the past?
Your belief in the conection between mental and physical health is all the more reason for you and the rest of the family to not focus on what has past and instead focus on creating a positive calm environment for her.
Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon |
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Re: kidney failure ....... ?
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#313888 - 01/27/2011 07:28 PM |
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Yes she has a daughter, Koko. She is extremely smart, could be a hunting dog easily, or a circus dog. She is the most athletic one, but a bully to Drina. Droopy is a lover, not a fighter, even though he is the biggest Pug you have ever seen. He likes walking outside regardless of weather (he was like that since he was a puppy, he would not want to go home at temperatures below freezing, same today). In this freezing weather I have to take him out every day, he insists. But Drina is a true phenomenon. She purrs imitating human voice and a sentence structure. She does that very often, every day, and it is the most calming thing in the world. If you listen to her, you are amazed, it is even shocking. I know that everybody loves their dogs, but since I learned this from Drina, I started to look at the animal world in a completely different way. They are only one step behind us in intelligence, but they are closer to God (or nature) than us (yes, just like children), and we can learn so much from them. Drina can say more with her eyes than a lot of humans can with their words. Once we took her to a dog show where we were showing Droopy and some breeders were amazed. I was hoping that one day I would have little ones from her, just to have another little miracle like her. I haven't taken a good care of the treasure that I have and the charm is gone, probably in my life I will never find anything like that any more. There are probably amazing dogs with amazing abilities, but this is a very unique one. My heart is broken, and this is one more thing I cannot forgive myself.
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