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BUT LOOK!! VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO GIVE YOUR DOG EITHER OF THE MEDICATIONS YOU ASKED ABOUT!!!

THE WEBSITE MAKES A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT SAYING THAT THOSE PHARMACEUTICAL PREPARATIONS CAN CAUSE SERIOUS ILLNESS!!!

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> oops!!!!!!! SORRY ABOUT THAT PREVIOUS POST!!!

BUT LOOK!! VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO GIVE YOUR DOG EITHER OF THE MEDICATIONS YOU ASKED ABOUT!!!

THE WEBSITE MAKES A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT SAYING THAT THOSE PHARMACEUTICAL PREPARATIONS CAN CAUSE SERIOUS ILLNESS!!!


Other common medicines and so called social "drugs" which definitely should not be given by owners to their pets are :

* Paracetamol
* Ibuprofen
* Acetaminophen (Tylenol)
* Alcohol of any kind
* Benzocaine
* The laxative phenolphthalein
* Iron supplements
* Vitamin D supplements
* Nebuliser medications prescribed for asthma
* Drugs used to control "fits" e.g. phenytoin (toxic in cats)
* Coffee and tea (due to the caffeine content)
* Cannabis or any other illegal drug.

All of the above have been documented to cause serious illness - and are potentially fatal . The message is - NEVER assume what is safe for you and your children is safe for your pet - the chances are it isn't.

Thank you for the feed back.

Ahh, cannabis, but it has such good affect on humans. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Other common medicines and so called social "drugs" which definitely should not be given by owners to their pets are : ...

* Vitamin D supplements

Vitamin D in the form of fish oil (marketed as Vitmain A & D) is beneficial for dogs - but ask a vet for the range of safe doses.

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Other common medicines and so called social "drugs" which definitely should not be given by owners to their pets are : ...

* Vitamin D supplements

Vitamin D in the form of fish oil (marketed as Vitmain A & D) is beneficial for dogs - but ask a vet for the range of safe doses.

Excellent idea -- or, if you want Omega 3 EFAs but *not* extra D or A, use fish "muscle"* oil -- salmon oil as opposed to fish liver oil. I stick with salmon (not liver) oil since I know my dogs don't need extra A or D. (These are not water-soluble vitamins, and can be toxic in large amounts.) OTOH, I know there are members here who *do* want the D for their dogs during their long sunless season.

JMO!

*It doesn't always have the word "muscle" on the label, but fish liver oil does have the word "liver."

So do I ,Connie. I also am specifically using a 100% wild norwegian salmon oil, because it is my understanding that the farm raised salmon have some kind of a parasite problem & the pacific and atlantic salmon may be way over fished.

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So do I ,Connie. I also am specifically using a 100% wild norwegian salmon oil, because it is my understanding that the farm raised salmon have some kind of a parasite problem & the pacific and atlantic salmon may be way over fished.

Not to mention more dioxin and PCBs in farmed salmon, competition between escaped farm salmon with wild salmon for survival, possible mating to produce a fish less fit than wild salmon, and antibiotics used in them leaking into the surrounding environment, and........and......

You're right about the parasites, too, as farmed salmon are often raised in crowded net pens, surrounded with feces and parasites. This is all JMO, after following the literature for a couple of years.

But I digress! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> We're talking about distilled oil, and not the flesh, but still -- I know which I would rather support and encourage.

There's a list of some of the best (I believe) fish oil companies (which doesn't include them all, I realize, but is a nice fast starting point), here:
http://www.crnusa.org/o3group.html

on fish oil and toxins: top of the food chain is usually risky. no need for dog people to go salmon when can go with lower order fish oils... I'm not sure what's on the market processed...but here is what I have in my neck of the woods...

I buy 10kg shatter packs of frozen whole round herring at 70 cents/kg. I boil it up and add it to the diet. The bones are very small and flexi and don't cause troubles.

I supplement with vit. E.

If fed raw on regular basis (ie every 2-3 days along with other raw food) need to supplement with B1, but it is difficult to know how much B1 is necessary to avoid thiamin deficiency caused by thiaminase enzyme in raw herring.

(my research led me to studies for feeding mink and foxes, but not dogs: side effects included paralysis of hindquarters and worse)

capelin is even lower on the food chain and likely has less man made toxins.

this season will try to find some on the wharf, rather than at the plant, at 10 cents per pound here in Newfoundland.

My dogs do very well on this stuff, with no side effects except oily shiny coats.

My conclusion is that there is no need for dog people to be up so far on the food chain as salmon for omega 3 and omega 6 oils.

The other thing we have here in NL is access to seal carcasses and seal oil...I got a 5 gallon bucket of the same processed oil that goes in seal oil capsules, preserved with vit. e., and divided and froze it for later use...now that is a high level predator, but so far it seems the seals from the Canadian arctic have low heavy metal content in the oil...all in moderation, I say...

related to the seal hunt...for those of you who saw our Premier debate this topic on Larry King Live: here in Newfoundland we are devastated that Paul and Heather McCartney have split up <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />...

For you in the U.S. wondering why you can't get seal oil: it is due to your Marine Mammals Protection Act: despite historic high seal populations in much of the world, especially in canadian north. rgds andrew may

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Not to mention more dioxin and PCBs in farmed salmon, competition between escaped farm salmon with wild salmon for survival, possible mating to produce a fish less fit than wild salmon, and antibiotics used in them leaking into the surrounding environment, and........and......

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Thank you for the feed back.

Ahh, cannabis, but it has such good affect on humans. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

LOL, I'm a kidder, Connie thanks for the telling me, it does sound a bit suspicious. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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on fish oil and toxins: top of the food chain is usually risky. no need for dog people to go salmon when can go with lower order fish oils... I'm not sure what's on the market processed...but here is what I have in my neck of the woods...

Hi, Andrew,

I buy only distilled salmon oil. Salmon is one of the less heavy-metal-riddled fish, but I still do not use any fish oil that isn't distilled to leave these toxins behind...... pharmaceutical-quality, distilled, and on the list I linked above.

Good point about Vitamin E...... dogs use it in processing oil supplements, so I *always* give E with the salmon oil.

I have to remember: say them together, so no one comes away with the salmon oil idea but not the vitamin E plan to match! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />