Educator K9-800 E-Collar 1 Mile Big Dog Remote Dog Trainer

This is a very powerful training tool however it is essential you use it properly for your dog and know the remote back to front before using it.

I strongly suggest watching the Leerburg video on remote collars before use.

My dogs recall was pretty good from using 33 ft line but off line he could be better. Using the collar his recall is perfect. I did use the collar while doing fetch and it killed his drive and turned him off fetching the ball (I have since fixed using food reward) this was my fault but the lesson is it's important to not over correct with this tool, and it is easy to do this as instead of a heavy yank of a lead you are pressing a button. Now I barely stim my dog but I have it available as an option. Also I used this to train food refusal as dog poisoning happens in my city from time to time, it was worth the investment just for the results in food refusal.

Personally I don't think e collars should be used by all pet owners. You need to be calm and focused when using and I can see how this tool can make a dog worse than better and in a very short time.

- towercrane on 09/23/2015

I just bought another 800TS different style because I might pull a double shift and the 800 I have is working fine but I needed an extra on hand. After viewing the video and the amount of items I buy for my K-9 FROM LEEBURG and have happy with my items,quality and the staff is outstanding. Both of my E-collars look the same just a different color and brand. After viewing the video about the K-9 800TS it goes to 100 with an extra kick of 30%. I have a strong 115 GS sable and only go as high as 11.

Since both collars are the same I had to do my own test because of the 30% kick. So I turned them both on with the piece you put on top of the prongs to see it's working. Every time I turned the dial up on both collars,the K-9 800 was a bit more light to see. So I just turned them both to 100 and I must say,even though they both are 800TS the light on the K-9 800TS was 40% brighter & I was shocked. It was like night and day and BOTH E-collars were charged full. Before anyone asks, because I know they will, being they both are 800TS E-collars. The remote on my first E-collar will not work using the K-9. So just because someone has an 800TS don't think they can control yours. Now I can't speak on buying two K-9 800TS to see if the remotes are the same because I only have one. The only item I missed but plan on getting soon is the Bungee quick snap for my E-collar. I hope this helps!

A note from Leerburg:
Check out the video in the description tab to hear about the differences between the regular TS models and the K9 models.

- rockwell on 11/10/2014

I really like the features of the K9-800 and its performance (when it works) but ultimately reliability issues make it hard for me to enthusiastically recommend it.

Pros:
+ rheostat feature to vary stimulation levels offer <very> precise control over how much stimulation you’re applying with a correction
+ user-programmable “boost” feature offers a very convenient way to increase stim levels by a specific pre-determined amount when needed (e.g. lowest level of stimulation for initial correction to get attention if needed, then just tap another button to increase stim level to a specific threshold for more aversive correction if required)
+ vibration feature on receiver works very well for silent recall

Cons:
+ Reliability. Unfortunately, my unit stopped functioning after 6 months of use. Specifically, the effective range of the unit suddenly (and without any indication) dropped down to about 2 feet.

This led to about 2 weeks where I would occasionally need to correct my dog but would see no effect when I depressed the controller button to stim the dog. I tested the ecollar by holding the controller in one hand and the receiver in the other. Upon depressing the controller transmit button, I definitely felt the receiver collar go on, so I thought I must be having contact problems with the collar adjustment. Maybe the bungee connection on the collar was loosening? Maybe I was just fumbling the controller and not depressing the button completely? Maybe my dog had gotten used to the collar stimulation (once she got acclimated to the collar, level “4” out of 100 was always sufficient to get her attention and I almost never had reason to boost the collar above that for more aversive corrections).

Finally, after two weeks or so of this, I asked my wife to give me a hand testing it out – this time increasing the distance between collar and transmitter/controller unit. I stood next to hear and held the collar against my forearm while she depressed the controller “constant” stim button – definitely worked when I was right next to her. What do you know – as soon as I stepped back another 2 feet, the collar reception and stimulation started flickering and become very inconsisten, i.e. she would hold the constant button down and the ecollar receiver would stutter on, then go off, then go on, then flicker off… When I stepped back another foot, it stopped working altogether.

I called the manufacturer and to their credit, they agreed to just send me a replacement. They were very congenial about it but unfortunately they only ship USPS and because of holidays, weekends, and their mailroom pickup schedule, it took another week for the replacement collar to get to me. At this point, I’m at 3 weeks or so without a functioning ecollar. I run my dog off leash quite a bit and those 3 weeks helped me fully realize how much I had come to depend upon using the ecollar when needed, and how frustrating it could be at times to not have it. On the plus side, those 3 weeks also helped me realize how useful and convenient the K9-800 was (when it was working fine).

Real concern for me now is that while I really like the features and functionality of the collar, I’ve lost confidence in its reliability. I can partially address that by just buying a backup unit so I have a spare if it dies when i am somewhere remote for an extended period (e.g. 2nd day of a week long camping trip). Unfortunately:
1) that doesn't address potentially dangerous situations like S&R activities where your dog may be out of sight or voice range and you're relying on the collar for silent recall. Or worst case, you're training a young dog and you're confident in their recall (even if it requires an aversive correction). Your dog sees another dog, a deer, whatever and bolts and when you try and correct with the collar - that's when you realize it's not working. That, to me, is a real recipe for disaster.

2) this item was close to $300 when i add in shipping which is a meaningful investment (for me). Paying 2x that just so I can have a spare would be an expensive proposition.

I understand that nothing is perfect, or perfectly reliable so I would temper my review with the acknowledgment that when it was working (which was 100% up until it failed), i really liked it and it worked well.

Photo below shows fit of K9-800 on 75lb malinois

- jaredrosenfeld on 11/16/2016