HYBRIDS are illegal in 11 States -
they should be illegal in all 50!

A list of States and their legal position on Hybrids

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Comment:

I came across your website looking to find a new home for my Wolfdog. She was given to me at 6 months old as a gift. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. She is now 6 yrs old and spade and has all her shots and is micro-shipped. I am now losing my home and can no longer keep her. Since I am in this situation tell me what you think I should do? Are you that insensitive to tell me to just put her down? You seem to be very adamant about preventing breeding in which I agree, but what are you doing to prevent it from happening and can you offer a solution to those who already exist today other than having them killed.

I think wolf sanctuaries are great and would love to have her go to one, the problem is there is no room. They are all filled. They are living animals, they have hearts, lungs, brains and were not asked to be created as pets, but now that they are here I'd like you to tell me your SOLUTION PLEASE!

I have to agree with you on all the traits you have listed about them. One thing for sure is she does not like children. I think wolfdogs consider them prey. I have never had an incident where she has bit anyone, but I would not put it past her. It seems she tends to decide who she likes and who she don't. This still does not mean they are worthless animals.

Many people complain about many things, but nobody is doing anything to fix the problem, ARE U?

Please respond with an answer if possible.

Thank you for listening. 

Comment:

September 27, 2002

Thank you for such an honest and wonderful site. I am sick of people hiding behind false ethics and fake titles (anyone can say they are anyone on the net) who are afraid to just say what's on their mind straight out. Although your page on the wolf-dogs was a bit abrupt I feel relieved that someone sane (finally) is speaking his mind sharply and loudly!

Although my heart breaks for the children attacked (one was attacked a year later again??? Too bad it wasn't the mother who was mauled...)

I for one, would like to state the wolves side of the story.

People breeding wolf-dogs have no respect for wild animals. They are on the most part very selfish and ignorant both of the danger of the wolf and of the beauty of it. All mammals can be segregated into two categories: wild and domesticated. Ex. Tiger= wild, cat= domesticated. It should be illegal to own a wild animal or God forbid breed it. Non-scientists should not have that right. Why? Because it makes them sad that's why. Even if they are properly cared for like in a zoo where they can't maul little children they are still sad. Only scientists breeding to aid in the protection of the animal should be supported because they alone respect and love the animal. Their goal is the animals happiness. I am Mr.Wolfs # 1 fan and there can be no convincing me in a 1000 years that wolf-dog breeders and owners love wolves.

I am a dog trainer/biologist in Athens, Greece who has been working as a consultant for a zoologist studying wolf-dogs in Greece for the last 11 years. I have had long discussions with wolf experts from all over the world. I keep tabs on wolf populations as a hobby; what the government calls me in for is to identify an attack to a village or farm -was it wolf or dog? Then I help catch the animal/s.

Unfortunately most wolves in Europe are wolf-dogs. 'Real' wolves sometimes come in from Russia and move towards Scandinavia but that is rare. French and German zoologists assumed that Greece should still have a healthy population of wolves because its close to Russia, has a lot of mountains and villagers were reporting wolf sightings. But the research team I am on hasn't got a 'wif' of a real wolf in 7 years. We keep finding wolf-dogs and ALL of the attacks on flocks or people we either dogs or wolf-dogs! This is because people who couldn't control their large dogs let them go astray. They then met a young starving wolf that was mean enough to get into the pack and breed. Dogs are very promiscuous and breed often. Wolf-dog puppies found were always found to be cute until they grew up a bit and got dumped into the wild to breed some more. What's the resume? Greece has no wolves.

We sure as hell have a lot of wolf-dogs though -or a few that are just so nasty they seem like a lot. They are a bigger problem than the wolf ever was. Real wolves are actually very predictable. A badly bred German Sherherd is very unpredictable -can you imagine a pack of badly bred german shepherds or doby mixes going wild and a bit hungry? Ok now add their wolf bred pups to the pack.

The bottom line is that any one who likes wolves should want them as far away from dogs as possible, and even further away from people.

I have an honest question. If a person wants a wolf because they like the 'look' and appreciate the intensity, independence and unpredictability why don't they just get a Malamute or Husky mix and not house train it? Is it so difficult to convince them to pee in the house and be obnoxious? I have NOTHING against these breeds or any of the other 500 breeds of dog - I'm just curious. I mean you take in a wild animal (or hybrid) and try to make a dog out of it when all along and for thousands of years there have been ready made dogs available to begin with! I swear I don't understand what these people want. I mean what their goal is. We HAVE dogs already. Why ruin a perfectly beautiful wild animal (it has been DONE already!)?? This must really anger German Shepherd and Malamute breeders. Its like the wolf-dog enthusiasts are saying: "Who cares if you have all helped create a beautiful 'wolfy' looking dog with an awesome personality! Who cares if it took you decades and your predecessors took centuries to perfect it? PAH! We don't LIKE it, we want a big trouble maker even if he is a lot uglier, more dangerous, and more unpredictable than wolf or dog, even if he might never be house trained and even if he might kill someone's child or our own one day! As for YOU wild wolf, you are passe... your days are numbered. You should mate with a dog to save your pups. Give them the audacity you never had to come into a village and feed! They will be killed but at least they will die with a full stomach!"

I know wolves and dogs are the same species but genetic research is being done to help differentiate between the two. This research should be done in 5 years and will greatly help the survival of the wild wolf. Hopefully by then it will also be illegal to own a wolf or wolf-dog. In 5 years they will finally be able to run a DNA test to see if your neighbors dogs just 'look' like a wolf or have wolf blood.

I don't believe any animal should be put down just for having wolf-blood but I do hope that they will all be spayed by law and taken to a wolf-dog reserve to spend the rest of their life in a pack, in nature but well fenced in.

I am sorry this went on for so long but I felt like the wolf deserved someone to speak out on his behalf.

Stella -Margaris

QUESTION:

I've been training dogs professionally for almost 2 years and have been in the veterinary field for 9 years, and although I've had quite a lot of experience with my own pets over the years, and have taken a course with United States K-9 Academy, I still have a lot of questions and am always trying to learn more. I just recently had an evaluation with an owner of a 2 year old neutered male wolf/Malamute cross (supposedly), who has been showing possessive aggression around food and toys, and has displayed some unpredictable aggression towards a familiar person. I know that there are a lot of people who want to believe that they have wolf hybrids, but on the chance that it really is, I would like to give them the best advice that I can.

I read your article on wolf hybrids and it coincides with everything I've heard from a behaviorist's point of view. They said that this dog is less than 10% wolf. It was a very nice dog and seemed very friendly and confident. It's very tall and I can see some wolfy type features in its face.

I'm wondering what percentage of wolf is considered safe, or is any percentage dangerous?

I was taught in my training at US K-9 that protection training is the best way to control aggression. I've followed that advice with my clients, but I would like to hear some other opinions. I'm afraid that in this case, if the dog is truly part wolf that it could do more harm than good.

I've seen some of your videos and have many of them on my wish list. I respect your opinion and would appreciate any information that you could give me.

Thank you.
Tammy

ANSWER:

There is no hybrid that is safe - no matter what percentage of wolf blood.

"Protection training" IS NOT THE solution to every aggression problem. This is not only bad inaccurate advice, it is dangerous advice. It is bizarre and I cannot believe that a training school would say something like this. But on the other hand we have to consider the source.

My advice is to walk away from this client. You do not want to have your name tied to a time bomb. If the animal attacks someone your name will be attached.

If you plan on being a pro in this business you need to learn that there are some clients that you need to walk away from.

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E-Mail on this issue:

I wrote you about a week ago saying I was probably one of the few people to agree and listen to you re: wolf hybrids. I believe that was a Monday evening. By 5p.m. Tuesday, my dog was put down. My husband and I had talked about your article and decided that he would be put down that Friday ...payday. What changed our minds was that he jumped our fence, went over to neighbors with small children to start a fight with their dogs. I could not control him. The best I could do to stop him was to throw rocks at his butt and shoo him home. I had no more gotten him in the pen, (12' high), was telling my husband what had happened, turned around, and there was dino again. WRONG answer in our home. Thankfully my husband took him to the vet then and there. Actually I did give him a couple of options- my .22, my .357 or the vet. Since our 10 year old daughter had been standing there and heard this, of course the vet was the end result. She goes shooting with us and knows what guns do. Now when I hear of such animals, I tell of your website, and offer to send it to them as proof. It was a sad few hours, but very necessary and very lucky that that was all that had happened.

Thanks.... Take care.
Lucy

Comment:

I will add to your probably hundreds of emails on the subject. I owned a hybrid until his death at 14 years of age. I naively adopted him from a local animal shelter where I was told he was a "Shepherd - Lab" mix. As he grew, he looked more and more alarmingly like a wolf. He became absolutely huge - as tall as a Great Dane and looked exactly like the wolves I saw on the show "Nature" on the PBS station. When the dog was fully grown, my suspicions were pretty much confirmed when I saw a new veterinarian. He exclaimed, "That's not a Shepherd! That's a Wolf!". One of his technicians (to my dismay) happened to be a so called breeder of Wolf-hybrids. He said to me, "Oh yeah, that is definitely a Wolf hybrid. No doubt about it." They pointed out his enormous feet that were much bigger than dog feet. His large teeth and sauntering gait and all his other Wolf features.
The troubles started quickly after bringing him home. He really was becoming dangerous and a training challenge. If it wasn't for 2x weekly training sessions (for 6 months) with professional dog trainers, it would most likely have been a disaster. Furthermore, these weren't your average "puppy" classes, these guys trained protection and schutzhund dogs for a living. THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN TRAINING HIM FOR PROTECTION - my goal they said was to demand that he never show any aggression - EVER! They said after a 6 month program, if things didn't improve, he should be put down. I agreed and wondered whether I should just put him down anyway. Well, miraculously it worked and in the end I had a decent dog.

Other reasons it worked: I was single, without children, had a large house and backyard. I adopted a second dog for companionship as he didn't tolerate being alone. I am a fanatical hiker/jogger and the many hours in the mountains hiking and jogging (sometimes I jog 10 miles in the mountains) provided a mental and physical relief for my hybrid. Without which, he would never have made it as a pet. Even so, he had many "quirks". He was big on eye contact and much of my training involved happy or angry eye contact to let him know how to behave. He could not tolerate anyone but me cornering him, or at least making him feel at all cornered or backed up against a wall. When lonely and left in the backyard he could emit spine tingling howl that was upsetting to the neighbors. The neighbors said the howls need to stop or the dog has to go. I don't blame them as I secretly hung around one day to see what he did when I left. It was a very eerie howl and very loud too. To some this may sound romantic. But, in reality it is not fun to have your neighbors up in arms and an animal in your yard that howls in such a way. It's actually a real nuisance. These are but a few examples, there were others things that made him "different" and more difficult than a regular dog as well.

I have new young dogs now along with my "old girl" the Pointer mix. The new ones are both rescued mixes without any hint of Wolf or any other aggressive breed. They've gone to puppy training classes and I still hike and jog fanatically. But, these guys are so much more fun to own. They are smart, uncomplicated and happy dogs. I learned a great deal from my experience, but I would never go back to that again. When I owned my hybrid, there was just no comparing him to my Pointer mix who was easy to train, happy and outgoing. I also learned to never own any aggressive or guard breed unless you are willing to attend training classes with a professional handler. I have neighbors with "guard" dogs that were not professionally trained. These dogs are dangerous, as they have jumped through windows to get at children in the street, attacked pets in the neighborhood, snarled with bared teeth at me and others walking by.

The bottom line is Wolf mixes at best are almost impossible animals to own and train. I would never go through the experience again. Furthermore, it only worked for me because I had a "diluted" wolf mix and I was able to provide some very special circumstances for the hybrid. I was fully prepared to put the dog down if the professional trainers didn't see any change - quickly. I should not have kept the dog at all and taken him back to the humane society where I found him. But I was very naive about dogs and dog ownership at the time. Now, 15 years later, I know better! So please, anyone thinking about getting a hybrid - trust me - don't!

Sincerely,
Ann

TESTIMONIAL:

September 15, 2000

I came across your site just surfing one day and just want to say: THANK YOU.

I'm a veterinary technician. In our clinic we have two or three clients with wolf-dogs. I absolutely refuse to enter a room with one of these beasts. None of them can be touched by anyone but it's owner (and then it's still snapping and snarling the whole time)--the vets just pop into the room and quickly give it a vaccine and leave.

One owner tried to tell us his dog was just a 'German Shepherd mix', but the vet called his bluff immediately! A medical considerations, too, for the idiots who think they need these animals: by the veterinary community and by the law, they are considered WILD ANIMALS. Which means even if you give a rabies vaccine, there is no guarantee it will work. Rabies vaccines have been tested on domestic dogs, NOT wolf-dogs. So if a wolf-dog bites a person, it is considered an unvaccinated wild animal and should be put down for rabies testing.

A valued client called our clinic one day inquiring about buying a wolf-dog. The tongue lashing she got from me and a vet convinced her 1. not to get it, and 2. if she did, don't return to our practice.

I wish everyone would read your article and realize IT IS THE TRUTH!

Thank you again,
Amy

TESTIMONIAL:

July 8, 2000

Hi!

I’ve just been reading your articles and they are awesome.

I have had 2 German Shepherds (police dogs both of them that I inherited after my brother when they where to old to work) a Finish Spitz and four ferrets.

I read on the Wolfhybrid articles that someone claimed the European Police used those in their work.. I almost laughed my ass off. Isn't that weird, they do this and that in Europe - all I can say is: no we don't!

What a lame way to justify something that shouldn't be.

I can guarantee that we don't use them here in Sweden, or anyplace else in Europe.

Thanks for a great site with loads of superb information.

Regards from Sweden,
Mikael

TESTIMONIAL:

June 29, 2000

Hi,

Just wanted to let you know I couldn't agree more with your comments about wolf hybrids. My breed is Alaskan Malamutes...need I say more about our problems with hybrid breeders? Unfortunately, the appearance of our wonderful dogs draws these people like flies. I suspect the bite statistics for our breed and for Siberian huskies are WAY out of whack (and probably for Shepherds as well...all three are in and out of the "top 5"), simply because many HYBRIDS that bite or kill are labeled "Alaskan Malamutes" or "Huskies" by animal control people who, by no fault of their own, can't always tell the difference.

This also works in reverse, to the detriment of the dogs that resemble wolves. All of my malamutes are protected to an extent by their microchips, tattoos, AKC registrations and proper containment, but I don't delude myself into thinking that one of mine could NEVER be mistaken for a hybrid...in fact, it happens all the time. Just walking down the street with a well-mannered, obedience trained malamute will still draw comments from the lay public, who in general don't know the difference!

In my experience, hybrids are confused and insecure animals that don't know whether to be dogs or wolves -- there is no place in our society for "pets" of this sort, yet by regulating them strictly and giving absolute "identify and kill" power to animal control authorities, we put our breeds that resemble them in danger of being regulated out of existence by overzealous and uneducated lawmakers. It's a complicated problem with many facets, & one I don't know how to solve. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate your view on hybrids, and I am as tired as you are of listening to supporters try to justify them. With me, it falls on deaf ears.

Joyce

QUESTION:

I read the incidents of death/harm from wolf hybrids, but I think you've unfairly misrepresented them, haven't you? Any dog, or wolf hybrid, will be mean if it's chained or penned constantly, and I noticed that in many of these stories, the dog are chained.

We just lost a 14 1/2 year old German Shepherd-Golden mix to Heaven. He was hard to handle and aggressive when he was a puppy. Then we took him to Obedience Training (which is really Owner Training!) and he was a fantastic pet for all those years.

It is usually the stupid owners -- not the animals -- that is the cause for over-aggressiveness.

My husband and I have been considering getting a wolf hybrid, of course not a First Generation or even 2nd or 3rd, and naturally are concerned, because we have 3 children, 6-year-old twins and a 9 year old. We are responsible dog owners and make them part of our family. We would never chain them or leave them alone for long periods and we would make sure they know we are in charge -- not them. If owners are responsible, are you still 100% against people owning hybrids? After all, all dogs are descendants from wolves and there are countless stories of German Shepherds, Rottweilers, etc. harming and killing children. We think these cases are 99% the Owner's fault/ignorance. Your opinion?

ANSWER:

You are misguided here. The key to your lack of understanding is in your own words.

I have been breeding dogs for over 25 years. I have bred over 230 litters of German Shepherds for police work. I know genetics and breeding. These animals are not dogs and they do not react like a dog reacts.

So the answer to your question is "Yes, I am very accurate and fair in my article" and "yes, there are a lot of idiots that own these animals and idiots that also own dogs," this does not change the fact that hybrids are inherently dangerous animals to children. The people who breed and sell them are fanatical fools. So buy one with this in mind at your own risk.

TESTIMONIAL:

October 13, 1999

In just finding that this web site existed has made me mad. I am a college student at Colorado State University and have written three papers and I am currently preparing a speech to give on why owning wolf hybrids is wrong. I have also spent several months working at a wolf hybrid sanctuary where I get to see the behavior of wolf hybrids. These animals have been abandoned by their owners and end up here. There are also a few full-blooded wolves there. This is good because you can see how similar they are. I am no expert and not trying to be, but your opinions are completely correct and you seem to be the expert.

Wolf hybrids have no place in today's society. They once did 15,000 years ago when man was trying to domesticate them. That's just it though, you may be able to socialize a wolf hybrid, but you can't domesticate them. Wolf hybrids undo 15,000 years of domestication. Dogs take to training and can be house broken. Wolves do not train well and can never be housebroken. Wolf hybrids fall anywhere between these two extremes. Hybrids also display the mischievous and destructive nature of wolves. Therefore, a wolf hybrid becomes bored. This results in destructive play, mental anguish, and escapes from the pen or cage in search of entertainment or food. A wolf hybrid can challenge a 10 ft. wall and win. I know you know this, but I thought I'd tell you I agreed and hope that you continue to educate the public.

Cole

TESTIMONIAL:

October 11, 1999

At last- somebody who shares my beliefs on hybrids. I am a BIG lover of wolves (my house is full of pictures,etc.), and dogs, but I would never think of putting the 2 together. I have preached this to people who think the hybrids are so cool. Do you ever notice they just don't want to listen? My boyfriend has raised hybrids and we have agreed NOT to talk about it. I was in the dog business for 15 yrs.(groomer/pet trainer) and I've seen the wolf-hybrids and how unpredictable they are. Yes you may be tough with your words but you are so right. My personal opinion is wolf-hybrids are nothing more than a weak persons substitute for power,prestige . But we both know that as long as somebody will pay money for them,somebody will continue to sell.

Terry

TESTIMONIAL:

September 7, 1999

This seems to be my day to e-mail you, I learned all about Hybrids in Heron Bay, by Marathon, Ontario. I was an Animal Control Officer for the city of Thunder Bay at the time. I had been called to a house which complained about cruelty to animals on their neighbor. When I questioned the neighbor about a dog kept in a back yard shed he led me to the dog. It was a 3-4 month old Wolf-Shepherd mix female puppy. She was on a 4-5 foot chain from the wall, the shed was very dark. I took her away of course. I named her Tasha and kept her at home rather than at the pound. I decided this based on what the man had told me about how he got her to begin with. It turned out that he was a hunter. He found the pup alone and grabbed her and left. There is a Reserve within a mile of where he found the puppy. I took the puppy to the reserve very shortly and had people try and identify her. She came from a female wolf who was still with a pack in the area. The wolf had bred to a male shepherd in their reserve and still came in sometimes to draw the shepherd out. Very strange, until I heard that the residents were placing meat out regularly for these wolves. They said that several mixed breedings had taken place and many people had hybrid pups from possibly the same litter. For some reason, the female wolf had abandoned her pups shortly after weaning, my guess is that they did not have enough pack instinct to stay with her and wondered towards too many people. Any way, this brought up the discussion of finding these hybrids and removing them from the pack and properly placing or yes putting them down. We knew that hybrids were not a good dog to have around a reserve and also around the pack in close proximity. Obvious dangers to people would occur very soon. With my hybrid Tasha I stayed in the small town of Heron Bay for 3 months. We walked trails, woods and she learned to track very very well. She too took to air scenting and found the pack in which we assume her mother was in. There was no sign of recognition of the pack, but there was unmistakable drive to find it. I am thinking now that this drive was simply prey. I worked with Tasha for two seasons and we befriended many hybrids and placed them, seven were put down when assessed as too aggressive and dangerous. Over the two seasons, 3 children where killed by hybrids who literally hunted them in the woods where played. We know they were hybrid because they were caught on camera and there was no mistake. These were not puppies, but mature dogs and many of them just like a pack themselves. Some industrial areas which verge on country have what they call Wild dog packs (dogs who run free and breed together), well these hybrids where just like that. They had become a terribly hostile and territorial group of prey animals. We got most of the hybrids out of the area over the two seasons and were assured that the reserve would not repeat the mistake again. Back to my puppy hybrid. She was very good to me. At about two years old she had not threatened any one and had been trained now to detect poached game by a trainer named Terry Forbes. I used her to detect poachers (just illegal hunting permit or permit breakers in Minnesota). She worked well and then things changed. Our neighbor where comfortable with her and she was trusted to walk with me to a corner store regularly. She always entered with me in the store. Actually any of my dogs still do, I will not leave a dog outside of a store alone or with another person holding it.

So here is the result, I had a baby, she was used to the cat and even kind to it, but we were careful with the baby. She would not try and contact the baby in any way which I felt very uneasy about. She was too good and showed no interest. When the baby was just able to move a couple of inches on a floor she changed. With no warning, she jumped him, picked him up by his head and I intercepted. She punctured into the skull with two canines. She let go very fast and I was able to keep her away while I comforted the baby I almost got killed. that night she stayed with me, the next morning she was put down. There is no way I would give away a dog that had that much training and could grab any baby anywhere at any time. And there was no way I would risk my child again with an animal that had so quietly retained the true wolf prey drive. She was simply waiting for movement the whole time and I did not see it.

TESTIMONIAL:

August 24, 1999

I have seen in the past that you have shared some insight on the wolf hybrid dogs that seem to be popular with some people. Just this last weekend 8-23-99 in Muskegon MI. a wolf/german shepherd hybrid mauled a young child to death. The dog was a bitch and owned by the victims family. If you want any additional information I can try to get a copy of the newspaper article and mail it to you.

Mark

TESTIMONIAL:

August 16, 1999

I didn't know what a wolf-cross mix was until a new neighbor moved in. She erected a small caged dog run surrounded by a 6 foot cedar fence. Her wolf-cross was a thing of beauty. Seemed well behaved with her children. One week after settling in the animal got loose. Broke away from the owner while she was moving the animal from the house to the run. I know how dogs behave when they get loose. Having owned Huskies for 20 years. This was no dog. It immediately ran to a neighbors house and was looking for the dog in the pool enclosure. When it didn't find it the wolf-cross scent marked the house and ran between the next homes having dogs. It then crashed through the pool enclosure attacking the dog inside. THIS WITH OWNER PRESENT. ABSOLUTELY NO FEAR. Believe me there was plenty of screaming. Not a pleasant thing to see or hear. Lucky that nobody, other then a small dog was injured. At first I read your article and was a bit skeptical. Having seen first hand the vicious unpredictable nature of the wolf-cross I am a believer. It is truly a wild animal that has no place in a residential community. The animal I refer to in this E-mail is housed not 100 feet from a school bus stop. What a liability risk. Calling owners of these animals "fools" may have been too kind.

TESTIMONIAL:

July 6 ,1999

I wanted to thank you for posting your articles on wolf-hybrids. My sister in law got a hybrid pup. It was so cute and I wanted one. It couldn't have been more than six months old but it was strong. I wanted one, but never got one. One day her son 6 , her, my son 3 and I where out having fun. My son was playing and screaming with her boy not more than 10ft away from me. That little pup grabbed my boy buy the leg and swung him in a 360 circle. I had never been so terrified. After all what harm could a little puppy do? Thank God he got him just by his sock and not his face!!!!!

His clothes where ruined, but his leg was not hurt. People say it is the child's parents fault. I disagree. The animal was loose my son was not close to it and the only thing I can think of that set it off was his screaming. It was not even that the animal didn't know my boy. I never realized how fast a dog/wolf could attack. I am more fortunate than most because the animal was only a puppy, if it had been full grown I am sure my son would have been hurt maybe even killed. After that I NEVER let that animal get within 20ft of my son. I know it was only reacting but that is just the point. Wild animals REACT to sounds like a child screaming (I was told it sounds like a wounded animal). I wanted to tell you this because most of your emails where on full grown hybrids not pups. They can be just as dangerous.

TESTIMONIAL:

April 29, 1999

I would just like to comment on the wolf hybrid issue.

First, and most important of all, (which most hybrid owners seem to miss) is that it is NOT the wolf and NOT the dog that is the problem. IT IS THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO. Period. End of story.

Where I am from it is illegal to buy or sell a wolf or wolf hybrid, yet it still happens. The most horrifying part is that to get these "hybrid" crosses a bitch in heat is staked out for a pack to find. In 99% of these instances the bitch is KILLED by the females in the wolf pack. And keep in mind, wolves are monogamous. In the pack ONE bitch is bred ONCE a year.... the alpha bitch to the alpha dog. ONE litter. So if in the 1% chance the person gets the bitch back safely the wolf that has bred her is an outcast and not strong enough to make it in the pack. hhhmmm the beginning of good genes here....

Another thing people tend to forget in defense of their beloved hybrid pet is that dogs have been domesticated for hundreds if not thousands of years. Wolves are NOT domesticated. Just think of a domestic cat.... the cat has been a pet for thousands of years, yet is STILL not completely domesticated. Wolves have not even stepped into the path of domestication.

Even if you look to domesticated dogs, the pack instinct is quite strong. For example: one of the reasons I have my dog is that his breeder lets 8 or 9 dogs all run together. When he was introduced back into the household at 2 years of age and un neutered he upset the fragile pack balance. Three of the 9 attacked and quite nearly killed him. Also keep in mind that these dogs are all altered. So he came to live with me. Three weeks later, his mother (an aging bitch who had been alpha) was attacked by the entire pack and killed. A younger, up-and-coming bitch (intact) felt it was time to challenge for the role of Alpha. These dogs, comprising of he brother, sons, nephews (and they all have been raised together) just about ripped her back leg off. There were softball size chunks missing from her neck and body.

Now there is no way, that after at least 100 years of breeding and inbreeding and SHOWLINE pedigrees that there is any wolf in these dogs. So if the pack drive in these completely domesticated dogs shows this much, it just boggles my mind to think of what the pack is really like with wolves.

Our family had a wolf hybrid when I was younger. We tried to keep him in the house, however he marked and we could never get him out of this. He would never voluntarily come to any one member of our family. So because of this he ended up being chained. He would never come near anyone so to catch him you had to pull him by the chain. He never trusted or even like people. I am not saying that he was evil or bad. However my entire family views his death as a godsend. He was shot by an neighbor at the age of 13 months. He would have bitten or even killed someone, and I know this to be a fact. In fact most of his litter has either been shot or put down because of this.

I would NEVER own or endorse ANYONE to own one of these things, and to anyone who claims they are the most wonderful dogs, I say GET YOUR DOG DNA TESTED - because if it is really loyal, loving, blah, blah, blah it ISN'T a wolf.

When I come across people today who proudly tell me they have a hybrid I tell them those lines out of the movie "Dumb and Dumber."

"I successfully crossed a Bulldog and a Shitsu"

"Why?"

"To make a Bull-Shit"

Sincerely,
Tamara

TESTIMONIAL:

February 6, 1999

I noticed a lot of your wolf dog attack articles and such reported that the CHILD approached the dog in most cases. I love wolves and wolf dogs, but I would not put my hand into the enclosure to pet it, nor would I with any dog. The dog is confined and has no where to go, and is sometimes more stressed out, especially if it is a wolf dog, and that wolf instinct wants it to run and be free, like a wolf. When the child is sticking its fingers in to a cage or pen, or even is anywhere near it, WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?? It is not the dogs fault the parents are a bunch of idiotic shits who would let their kids put their fingers in the cage, especially if the dog does not know the child.

I also don't believe you are right or even sane to post the "zoo incident' articles - why don't you just list all of the big cat attack and all the other zoo animal attacks while you're at it?? That is just plain ignorant; a zoo is for wild animals that are confined and have high stress levels. They should be in the wild, not in a cage.

The people who have the wolf dogs are sometimes at fault, they don't know how to handle the animal. And the dumb asses who let their kids wander into the neighbors yard are irresponsible for not watching their child! It is never the animals fault.

And just for your information, they showed a reporter that was interviewing a K9 Police officer and his dog was with him (obviously) and he was telling the reporter how good of a dog his GSD ws, and he brought it to schools and the kids would love it and pet him and the dog would just let them. Well in the midst of his explaining, the reporter bent down to pet the do, and it reared up from its sitting position and bit him in the face, requiring 5 stitches. This is a dog that is around kids. There is your precious GSD for you-just goes to show that wolf dogs aren't the only attackers, as you seems to show it.

Crissy

TESTIMONIAL:

January 12, 1999

Today while surfing the Net I read your article on wolf hybrids as kid killers. From a child I have always wanted a wolf. When I was 16 years old I purchased a wolf hybrid that was 5 wks. old. The breeder said it was full blooded wolf. I did my homework and learned as much about them as I could. Even so, I only had him for 3 days before realizing that I was in way over my head. I returned him with the idea that when I was an adult with my own farm and had the facilities to make that great big enclosure and feed him real meat I would search again for one of those 65lb. beauties. I live in Iowa and have gone to many of our local exotic animal sales where they sell wolf hybrids. I have on many occasions had the opportunity to get another however, reading your list of attacks on children has very much changed my mind completely. I have a 6 year old and thought that a fence would protect her (just in case) Apparently not, according to those awful reports. I will now stick to my pretty and reliable Siberian Huskies and Malamutes for that "wolfie looking animal" and will never again consider buying a hybrid.

Thank you from the Frazer family

TESTIMONIAL:

Dear Mr. Frawley,

I want to thank you very much for your expert testimony in the Chris Wilson killing currently being shown on Court TV.

I have a rescued Rott. and a rescued wolf/shepherd cross. I am astounded and by how irresponsible people can be with their animals.

My vet talked me into keeping the huge rescued Rott when I took him to her for treatment because of his excellent temperament (I had no intention of keeping him). At 4 year old it was obvious he at some point in his life was had been properly treated and trained and his temperament was then, and is now, as steady as a rock. I am glad I kept him but in all honesty he has certainly reinforced my belief that ownership of such powerful dogs are not to be taken lightly or without constant vigilance. As sadly demonstrated in the case on Court TV there are some people who are just to stupid to own dogs and that makes them and their dogs extremely dangerous.

The wolf/shepard cross is another whole bag of tricks. She is very wolfie in her attitude and her behavior. I am constantly amazed and amused at times but never anything but respectful when observing the difference between the behavior of the Rott after years of domestication and the wolf shepherd cross. The differences are striking. I find it just as frightening that there are people how actually purchase these animals with absolutely no knowledge of wolf behavior and the trials to come. I love this animal to death and I will keep this animal until she dies but I certainly would not recommend that people own these crosses. I would be interested in your beliefs on this matter.

Again, thank you for your expert knowledge in the above case. I am sure that your knowledge in this area has persuaded a few people that they should be responsible dogs owners and that maybe a powerful Rott is not a animal they should own. Your clear, precise and articulate presentation during your testimony has provided in my opinion a great public service. Also thank you for sticking to your guns on the points you made, that is one underestimated defense attorney.

Melisssa

TESTIMONIAL:

I read your article on Hybrid Wolves. Three years ago I responded to an ad on hybrid puppies. The so-called breeder said the puppies were all sold, but they had to get rid of the mother. My husband and I took our lab/chow mix to their house to meet her. They (the two girls) have always gotten along with one another with the exception of one minor scrap, (neither injured the other, and my husband and I grabbed the two to separate them). My hybrid was abused, neglected, and nervous around my husband. She was 6 when we basically adopted her. Had I took the time to do the research I would not have looked for a hybrid. I do know however, that they are wolves and I do treat her much differently than any normal animal. She is very intelligent, but I do not let people touch her, besides my husband and myself. She lays by me when she does not want to be bothered, or hides in her "cave" (an area under a piece of our bedroom furniture). She is not a dog by any means, and should not ever be treated as one. I do love her and respect her. These animals really should not be bred. I feel sorry for them. It is not their fault that humans decided to mess with genes, yet again, but in the same I do not think that people should be niave when wanting a hybrid. It took years for my husband and I to learn her ways and appreciate her, not to mention watch her like a hawk. I am always at home with her. If I wasn't and she was constantly outside, I would not have her. I hope that others will learn not to breed hybrids, or to purchase them. My hybrid has not hurt anyone yet-but I wouldn't put it past her. I always expect the worst and can never trust her fully. I appreciate your article and hope that people will realize that these wolves are not dogs. They are wild and should not have been bred in the first place. Please keep up your site, it is very informative and is serving a good purpose.

Thank You,
Leslie

COMMENT:

You should focus your time to what the Jews and negroes are doing to your country and not worry about dogs. The government kills a lot more children than dogs or any other animal. Remember Waco?

Ray

MY RESPONSE:

A very interesting email- People like you make me sick to my stomach. My advice would be to crawl back into your cave and hibernate for another 10,000 years.

COMMENT:

I just wanted to say, thanks for your website! I think there are debates on just about everything. There are positive, negative, and in-between views. Yours is the most negative one I saw; much needed for people researching. I was looking up wolf hybrids, because I thought I wanted one. Your article was the first that I came across. I right away got a negative view. I pictured the only way I would feel safe owning a wolf dog; wearing a muzzle 24/7 and always on a leash. That immediately turned me off. I read the good sides of owning hybrids, I read a ton of articles with people totally for them, saying what sweet, lovable animals they are with the right owners. Well, I still felt sorry for their wolves. I don't think they were telling all... they have too long to be unhappy. Personally, I liked your article, and a few others the best. I loved how you called the owners "stupid" and "idiots." That is so true... Some are obviously more stupid than others, though. Now I'm set on my decision. I will never ever own a wolf hybrid of any kind. I wish they didn't exist... I feel sorry for them. I think I'll stick with dogs.

Sheila

COMMENTS:

Dear ED,

I just read your article on wolf hybrids - it is right on the money. My next door neighbor (we live in a semi-rural community) raises these so-called gentle beasts. Well, it seems that one of them got loose last week. It ran up and down the road jumping into the back yard of the family that lives across from us and attacked their friendly little poodles. Well the family across the street’s 8 yr old girl tried to stop it and she was attacked. She managed to open the gate and one of the poodles made a break for it because the wolf-dog to give chase right into our backyard. Bad move for wolf-dog because we have a GSD and Giant schnauzer (both males) and they were not happy to have the wolf-dog in their territory. They tore into him pretty good. The bad thing is the crazy lady whose wolf did this feels as though the little girl is to blame for her attack because she tried to save her little dogs. And the real kicker is the crazy lady is suing us for the damages that my dogs did and she called the animal control people on us saying our dogs are vicious. I take our dogs to the local preschool that I work at to play with the kids - they are not vicious! She is trying to stick us with $2400 in vet bills even though the wolf is surely going to be put to sleep for biting the little girl. Any advice on how to force her to get rid of her wolves? (she has we think at least 10-15)? We are terrified of what could happen if they pack up and get loose.

Sincerely,
Wendi

MY RESPONSE:

You should be terrified. Counter-sue this lady. What will happen is her homeowner's insurance will get involved, they will drop her like a dead flea when they find out what she has living at her home. She will not be able to get insurance. Go to your bank and ask how you can find out who has liens against her home. This will be her bankers - then let them know that she is without insurance - they will insist on her getting insurance.

There is more than one way to screw with mother nature. File written complaints with your local District Attorney’s office and the county board or city council. Go there and take copies of my articles about how dangerous these animals are - give them to the newspaper. MAKE YOURSELF heard. That’s how you fight it.

ANOTHER E-MAIL REGARDING THE SAME LADY:

Well ED,

It happened again. The lady down the street had another one of her hybrids get free, this time a big male. It went after a 13 year old boy who was out walking his dog. Luckily the boy was walking his American Stafford shire Terrier and that stupid hybrid got his face chewed off by the friendliest dog in the neighborhood. Every time I hear some wolf nut say that hybrids are safer than pit bulls and german shepherds it makes me cringe. Now I am not a huge pit bull fan, I am a staff terrier fan but I have seen a two year old ride that am staff and do the unthinkable run away from the dog but because he is a DOG he doesn't chase the little girl down and kill her! Like one of the wolves would so readily do. Ed I just wanted to drop a note to you letting you know that the lady's days are numbered because the neighborhood is fed up and we have discussed your web page and we go before the county commissioners next week. Can we have permission to use your articles?

Sincerely,
Stephen

MY ANSWER:

Yes you can use my article with your county government.

COMMENT:

Hello,

I want to say I agree with everything you said on your site concerning wolf hybrids. These animals are NOT dogs, they are HIGHLY dangerous and the only safe way to own one is in a zoo-like setting where the animal never has the opportunity to hurt a human. They should not be bred, and if there is an accidental breeding, the issue should be either kept in the zoo-like setting or put down.

I wanted to address the comments of the person who specifically mentioned Malamutes as a breed with a high incidence of biting. I work with Malamute Rescue, and we have been called more than once to pick up a 'pure' Mal who turns out to be a hybrid. When we tell the people we absolutely do not deal with these creatures, they tell us how they are afraid this animal will bite someone, but they don't want to put it down. We give them the names of people in hybrid rescue, and then they tell us that they don't want their 'precious' to be placed in the zoo-like setting at the hybrid places. Then we tell them the only other alternative is to have the animal put down.

We ask why they lied to us, telling us that the 'dog' was pure Mal, and they tell us that this is what the breeder told them to do. So we went to several places in Wisconsin advertising hybrids. Sure enough, these 'wonderful' people tell prospective buyers to NEVER tell people that the animal is part wolf, not even the vet! "Tell them it's pure Mal or a Mal/Shepherd mix" they say.

Wonderful. Then, two, three years down the road, when this animal mauls a child, guess what breed gets the blame? Out of the five places we visited, four told people to claim it is pure dog. I imagine this is not unique to Wisconsin, and as such, I have to wonder how many 'Shepherd' and 'Malamute' bites are really done by hybrids? (not to say that either breed is utterly incapable of biting!)

Just my two cents worth!

Lori
Secretary, Shore Line Alaskan Malamute Rescue

COMMENT:

What is your problem with wolf hybrids it makes me wonder if you even know what your talking about bad news mr wolf i have one question what was a dog before it was "domesticated" hmmmmm wild and as for your comment that you cant be convinced an owner could care about their pet its ass holes like you that cause all the asinine laws that try to prevent people from having pets. hey news flash ANY pet can turn just like a human i feel sure if you were caged you would get pretty pissed but if kept in a warm home with attention and food wouldn't life be alright my hybrid is a member of my family i call her a dog she is lovable and protective of my baby yet i know "DOMESTICATED" dogs that have killed children so in closing

" GET A SPOON AND EAT MY @$$"

COMMENT:

Dear Mr. Frawley,
I found your article on hybrids very interesting. While I agree with you on some points, others I cannot. My biggest problem with your article is that you call hybrids "kid killers." I understand your frustration and anger with irresponsible dog/hybrid owners, but that is such an exaggerated generalization. For every hybrid that attacks a person, there are thousands that are docile. In fact, there are more attacks by purebred dogs on adults and children annually, then there are hybrid attacks. Now, I am not trying to discredit your article, but I do think you are being extremely biased. I also think, if you want to educate about hybrids, the old saying, "You catch more flies with honey," applies. If you come off as completely biased, people aren't going to listen to you.

Now, I know it won't please you to know that my dog is a coyote-australian shepherd mix, but I can assure you, I have had more problems with my purebred dog. In fact, the two purebred German Shepherds my family had as child attacked over ten people, and blocked off our street so no one could enter it. That is far more dangerous than my hybrid.
I believe that this is a matter of "nature vs. nurture," and nurture defiantly wins out.

Thank you for your time, and feel free to respond back to me.
-Megie

ED'S RESPONSE:

Maybe you should see some photos I have of dead children in the morgue after they have been partially eaten by hybrids.

You have a lot to learn about animal behavior and pack behavior.

Dear Mr. Frawley:

I believe that your site is a way to vent anger on a personal opinion that has some fact behind it. It is one thing to state the facts behind these wolf/hybrids, it is another to call all their owners morons. They are indeed dangerous attempts to mess with nature, but can be brought out well if raised under the right conditions, just like any dog. You have the right to voice your opinions on the matter, but not the right to speak of the owners in such a manner. You need to open your eyes and see the world around you for what it really is: A world of ignorance. No matter how much you state the facts, some wolf/hybrid owners will not see the partial truth that you state. All dogs are dangerous under certain conditions. The saddest part about this e-mail to you is that a thirteen year old is grasping this concept better than an adult.

Please do not send a response to this e-mail, as I will not receive it. I do not care whether you put this up on your website or not, but if you do, I am not afraid to show my name.

Hoping you see the light,

Travis

COMMENT:

I agree that when any canine hurts or kills a human is a tragic event. Why do you single out WDs?? There are far more injuries & deaths caused by domestic breeds than hybrids; as usual it usually comes down to a not very bright human owning a potentially dangerous animal be it WD, G. Shepherd, Pit bull or other large canine. This is particularly true of sexually intact animals; unfortunately "Bubba" isn't very likely to neuter his "wolf."

We privately rescue low to mid wolf content WDs who are well socialized to people. We assess them (3 months), improve their canine social skills, human social skills and train them to the level of AKC GCC (another 3 months) then find them new homes . We do not adopt out to homes with children under 12. Our home inspection is tougher than many
human adoption home inspections.

I was accidentally bitten when I did a really foolish thing with a recent fosterling - I gave two of them pig ear treats and due to a senior moment tried to take a pig ear away from an animal I'd only known for 5 days without giving it any warning with a competitive animal
eating a treat immediately beside him - NOT VERY BRIGHT ON MY PART - he gave me about a dozen rapid warning snaps and the last one touched my palm and gave me a minor puncture wound.

An opposing viewpoint,
Dave

ED'S RESPONSE:

However well intentioned you are - my only comment would be to make darn sure your insurance is up to date - unless you want to donate your home to the family of a child that was attacked. Which will happen.

I do not need to debate with you. Nor will I. What you do is so wrong it goes without comment. Your lack of understanding and education in pack behavior was well documented in your getting bitten.

Don’t waste my time or your time answering. You can read this response on my web site when my secretary has time to add it.

COMMENT:

I would have to agree with the comment made to you on wolf hybrids. “Get a spoon and eat my @$$.” I had a wolf cross or “hybrid” for almost ten years. He was the most docile dog I have ever been around. Kavik loved kids and other dogs as much as he loved me. The kids that lived on my street came over just to ask to play with him. He never remotely acted as if he would harm them. And I kept a close watch on him for years, because of people like you who demonize these animals. I would have to say that most dogs that are aggressive have been abused, neglected or trained to be that way. People buy dogs, throw them in the backyard and forget about them. And most of the *$$holes who said they had bad experiences with a hybrid, probably did exactly that. Dogs, wolves and hybrids are very social animals that need a lot of attention and affection. Denying any creature of these basic needs will result in nothing good. That includes humans. I guess why this cuts me so deeply, is that my Malamute Wolf Hybrid died last weekend from complications with Cushings Liver Disease. I would suggest before you print crap from people about these so called vicious animals, you investigate the story. If you do not have the time, money or resources to do so, then just do not print it. If you were just some idiot with an agenda, I would not suggest this. But you own a business, and people look to you for the truth and facts about certain pets. I have the feeling that I have wasted my time. You are probably a liberal democratic tree hugging non hunting anti gun fruit cake. Oh, and by the way, I read your piece on how to break up two dogs fighting. Some idiot is bound to try that, and I hope they slap a liable lawsuit on your @$$ when they get the sh** chewed right out of them. Have a nice day.

God bless Kavik 12-9-94 to 11-13-04

W. Moneyhun

ED'S RESPONSE:

Now aren’t you sweet.

You have wasted your time – both in writing me and in raising this animal. Because you went from 12-9-94 to 11-13-04 and never learned a thing other than to talk about something you have limited (very limited) experience with.

I voted for Bush, killed a 10 point buck in SD a week ago today, went on a 150 mile cattle drive on my cousins ranch 10 days ago and don’t have time for clueless people who talk TRASH about something they don’t have a clue about.

Have a nice day.

COMMENT:

You are misleading the public; I have a Wolf, Pyrenees, German Shepard mix that has ten times the personality, and intelligence than any “dog” I have come across. My dog is less a threat to the public than your hateful uninformed website. I would only buy your video if it showed one of your so called “killer” wolfs having its way with you.

Please e-mail me if and when this video will be released. Good luck finding a wolf that would waste its time eating you.

Matt
cdillon1@tampabay.rr.com

COMMENT:

Dear Ed,

As a wolf enthusiast and previous wolf dog owner, I was very displeased to read your article about wolf hybrids being "kid killers." As a K-9 Officer, I'm sure you realize that wolf hybrid attacks make up only 2% of all canine attacks in the United States. As a breeder of German Shepherds, I am sure you're well aware that a German Shepherd or Rottweiler or any other dog breed is more likely to attack than a wolf hybrid.

Have you ever owned a wolf hybrid, Ed? I have and so did a dear friend of mine. Her's lived with her for 16 years before he finally passed away of old age. Both wolf dogs were very docile animals, and they were extremely shy of humans they were not familiar with. It'd take a lot to get a wolf hybrid to bite someone, and if they do, I can only assume that they were provoked or cornered. A wolf and/or wolf dog would rather flee the scene than fight. That is their way and anyone who has worked with them extensively understands this.

You assume too much about wolf dogs because you have only seen the bad and not the good. Until you have witnessed both sides of the coin, I recommend you keep your opinions to yourself.

Sincerely,
Jessica

ED'S RESPONSE:

I get emails like this all the time . You opinions are based on a lack of education – your opinions are based on your experience with one or two animals – your opinions indicate a complete lack of understanding of wolves, dogs – and genetics. SO please do not preach to me. This issue is not what a small percentage of kills or attacks come from hybrids – compare the number of attacks as compared to how many actual hybrid animals there are out there.

COMMENT:

You, sir are incorrect with your statements. I say this because you are attacking a breed that you probably have never owned. Why attack the hybrid?? And, not any other dog. If a hybrid attacks somebody its a big deal and it shouldn't be just because it has wolf in it. No one makes a big deal out of a domesticated dog that attacks somebody. By the way it's not the dog or hybrid that attacks on purpose. It's the way people have treated them. I have 2 hybrids and they are both high percentage and they are the sweetest dogs in the world. They never bit nobody or ATTACKED anybody before. So your just talking straight out your ass because you don't like the breed. It's kind of like teaching a german shepard to bite somebody. So you have no argument..
signed- SOS

ED'S RESPONSE:

I am always impressed with the people who choose to comment on their lack of ignorance and lack of understanding on something they obviously don’t know a hoot about.

Have a nice life - crawl back in your cave and look for your post on my web site. Always impressed with people who sign their names as SOS !!!

COMMENT on Hybrids:

Hello, I was directed to your website via a friend from a Volkswagen forum I visit.

My roommate has a wolf-dog, it will turn 1 year old in November, and I'd like to start by saying before I lived with this thing I absolutely adored dogs. I hated cats. After living with this thing since April I'm in love with our cat and I want to suffocate the dog with a pillow.

We've had almost every problem in the book with this thing:

1. Submissive urination (it was so extreme with me I just stopped letting the dog out when I got home from work/class altogether, I couldn't even pet it for the first 6 months without it peeing upon my touch)

2. It does not respond to normal obedience training (my roommate also blames this on me and his girlfriend for not assisting him with its training), it takes my roommate several tough tries and usually physical force to get the thing to sit/lay down, when we're eating we all have to take turns yelling at it to get out and standing up to try and chase it out (it's like a furry wingless vulture, it'll grab food out of your hand if you turn your head)

3. It enjoys tearing stuff up like paper towel and toilet paper but loves my roommates girlfriend's underwear and shoes (this actually concerns me it seems to only chew her possessions)

4. It was able to jump the fence in the yard after the first few weeks we moved into the house, my roommate has since extended the fence by an extra 2 feet, it still was able to get over, so he switched to one of the screw-type tie outs, it broke the screw in half, and then we went to a zip line, it yanked one out of the side of the house along with the wooden board it was screwed into, it is not spayed (which also worries me), and we live next door to 5-7 year old girls that enjoy playing outside. It also loves to dig holes.

5. It really likes to "play" with the cat, albeit the cat does egg her on by attacking her tail, but sometimes I round the corner to find the cat's head in the dog's mouth which really scares me

6. It just will not stop biting, a lot of times it's just merely holding your hand with its mouth, but there are many times where it gives a pretty good chomp down on your leg/groin/arm/hand/even face

7. If I'm the only one home I CANNOT sleep in if it's caged because of it's excessive howling/barking, my roommate's girlfriend has actually cried before because the dog would not let her sleep when she was the only one home.

After a few months of living with the dog, I researched a lot about it online (I had zero knowledge on wolf-hybrid's and I don't believe my roommate had any either), and I came across some startling facts you're obviously well aware of and have published on your website without bias. I showed this information to my roommate, but it seemed to impact him at all, and he felt that if he focused on training the dog properly he could overcome these "obstacles". I think it's more an ego thing with him, I feel like he got the dog so he could tell people "yea, I got a wolf..." but I think he feels he'd look stupid if he got rid of it almost a year later. My prayers almost came true when an anonymous neighbor reported the dog to the local police (they're 100% illegal to own here) but my roommate was able to get papers from the breeder stating the dog was nothing more than a malamute. I gave up on trying to convince him to get rid of it (as it was a huge strain on our friendship) but I'm still very worried something bad will happen with the dog; either it attacks one of the neighbor girls or maybe his 10 year old nephews or hell even challenge his girlfriend for her place in the pack hierarchy or something. Is there any advice you could offer me?

Thank you for the website and any info you can help me with
-MT

P.S. I apologize for any odd grammar, I've been typing this up in between customers at work.

Ed's Response:

Your email made me laugh – I shared it with a friend – we both had a good laugh.

Get a GLOCK – shoot this hybrid before it hurts someone – which it will – or get a new room mate. Life is too short for this.

Comment:

Edward,

I found the contents of your website on wolf dog hybrids to be riveting reading. Unfortunately, the more I read, the more I realized that you are an opinionated, unintelligent and hypocritical control freak and basically, the thing that you accuse all those who disagree with you of being; a redneck.

Now before you level the redneck charge against me, consider the following: I am university educated, hold eight patents and have a measured genius IQ, so please, keep your insults to yourself, where they rightly belong. I also own two large dogs, both of whom are companions rather than pets and are part of my family.

To take just one point among your many unproven and evidence free "facts"; you claim that there is no wolf genetic material in the German Shepherd Dog, more correctly the Sheeferhund. You simply state that the contention that Sheeeferhunde were partially bred from wolves is untrue. I was expecting some evidence to back up this all encompassing
statement, but none was forthcoming. We are expected to accept your unsubstantiated word for this, without any further evidence. You claim to be a police officer. Would you expect such a bald statement, without substantiating evidence, to be taken seriously in a court of law?

Unfortunately for you, on that matter, the USDA disagrees with you. I think I'll accept their opinion rather than yours.

Your blanket condemnation of all wolf dog hybrids as child killers is simply so filled with obvious prejudice and hate that it loses all credibility and its possible impact on any intelligent reader is completely negated. A more reasoned approach, less filled with obvious prejudice and the inability to accept that yours is not the only opinion that matters would make your website far more useful.

And finally, insulting those who write you on the basis of their names is evidence of deep seated mental problems. I strongly suggest that you seek immediate psychiatric help.

I neither expect nor particularly want a response from you. I am only writing this e-mail to inform you that your site does more harm to your "cause" than good and would be far more effective if it were not written by someone who cannot be persuaded by facts once his mind is made up. I don't particularly enjoy correspondence with the mentally disturbed.

John

Comment:

Wolves and dogs are the same species, so they could be called another "breed of dog." My opinion on German shepherds aka kid killers! You criticize wolf hybrids, yet you breed German shepherds that are far more dangerous than wolf hybrids. You are just another stupid person. Look up the facts. Wolf hybrids are not as dangerous as other breeds, far less dangerous than the German shepherds that you breed. Any dog that is brought up wrong can be dangerous. There are a lot of good wolf hybrid breeders out there. You should criticize the German shepherds that you breed, or pit bulls. MOST dogs or wolf hybrids are GOOD DOGS. They do not bother anyone. Only dogs bred to fight or dogs that are brought up wrong or abused are "dangerous." Stop criticizing ALL wolf hybrids and start criticizing bad BREEDERS OF ANY DOG, not just wolf hybrids. Whether you care or not, I am trying to show you the RIGHT point of view.

Sincerely,
Mimi

Comment:

July 6, 2009

Dear Ed,
 
How can you critisize hybrids when all you have to go on is the attacks in Vermont. I own a hybrid and she has never once attacked any person, not even children that stick their hand through my fence because their parents are stupid. The attacks I have read leave blame on the parents. Every parent should teach their kids not to go up and pet a strange dog without permission from the owners. And what about police dogs that trained to attack people just because they get too close? Can you explain that? Everyone is quick to critisize hybrids because of what some owners train them to do. Just like pitbulls, people train pitbulls to be mean. No dog is born mean, they are either trained or abused to be mean. You don't like hybrids because your afraid to learn and be around one. I've been attacked by a lot of dogs but that doesn't mean I hate them now. Every single is unpredictable because every breed came from woles. Animals are unpredictable and people should get used to it. So if you can prove me wrong then do it.
 
Amanda

See a list of wolf dog attacks

See a list of wolf dog attacks in Vermont over a 3 year period

Click here to learn how to break up a dog fight without getting hurt.

This information could also be used on a hybrid attacking a human.

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