Valerie Tietz-Kelly wrote 12/19/2005 06:12 PM Brown recluse spider bite #92773 - 12/19/2005 06:12 PM
Valerie Tietz-Kelly Webboard User Reg: 07-26-2005 Posts: 566 Loc: NJ, USA Offline	I just saw a picture of a dog that is recovering from one of these bites, OMG it is absolutely frightning. I didn't post the photo as it is a bit graphic. What makes a bite from one of these little critters so damaging. This dog looks to have a whole in his skin from where the abcess was. Are these spiders particular to a certain area? Val
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Jenni Williams wrote 12/19/2005 06:18 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #92774 - 12/19/2005 06:18 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	My dog's sire almost died from a spider bite last summer; I don't know what kind of spider it was. The breeder noticed he was quieter than usual, and because he was 11, she immediately took him to the vet, where it took several tests to determine what it was. He had an extremely high fever, and the reaction was worsening quickly. She and the vet couldn't believe how tough he was, so she cautioned us to watch our dogs closely, because apparently, they have high tolerance for pain, and by the time they seem REALLY sick, it may be too late. It's scary-you can't see bites through fur.
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Valerie Tietz-Kelly wrote 12/19/2005 06:29 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Jenni Williams ] #92775 - 12/19/2005 06:29 PM
Valerie Tietz-Kelly Webboard User Reg: 07-26-2005 Posts: 566 Loc: NJ, USA Offline	This bite made this dogs face swell up like a balloon, then they had to lance it, leaving a huge hole...it's scary Val
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Julia Tompson wrote 12/19/2005 06:46 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #92776 - 12/19/2005 06:46 PM
Julia Tompson Webboard User Reg: 08-21-2005 Posts: 201 Loc: Offline	My sister got bitten by one when she was out West (not sure if it was brown or black I just remember it was a recluse) and it ate her flesh off. It was gross. Now every time she sees a spider she flips out and we dont have them here in Maine. (at least that's what I keep telling her) “The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams”
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Becky Shilling wrote 12/19/2005 07:06 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Julia Tompson ] #92777 - 12/19/2005 07:06 PM
Becky Shilling Webboard User Reg: 12-01-2005 Posts: 1009 Loc: OKC, Oklahoma Offline	Brown Recluse (Fiddlebacks) are really common around here. They cause all the capillaries and vessels to shut down, causing extensive tissue death. Under the house is a common place they like to hang out; anywhere dark and and damp. There is a little Min-Pin that frequents the dog park that was bitten on his back. He barely survived and now has a Harry Potter lightening bolt of white hair down his back bordering the scar tissue. It's really weird lookin' but better than being dead! It's difficult to find the bite until the tissue starts to die; they are very small spiders.
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Mitch Kuta wrote 12/19/2005 10:49 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Becky Shilling ] #92778 - 12/19/2005 10:49 PM
Mitch Kuta Webboard User Reg: 01-31-2005 Posts: 464 Loc: Ovilla, TX Offline	Very common around here also. (EastTexas) My worst fear actualy, not the snakes, scorpions or black widows. I killed one in my bathroom earlier this year. They are another reason my wife wants the dogs in the bed not on the floor. MJK
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Bob Scott wrote 12/19/2005 10:52 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #92779 - 12/19/2005 10:52 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	I run into them all the time when I'm rehabing old houses. Just like bee stings, some people react more than others. Of 8-10 people that I've seen bitten, non have had the really serious tissue damage. Roger Morrow, an ocasional poster here, had his foot bitten last summer. His whole instep turned a really nasty black and blue, but other than listening to him whine and moan about it, I didn't think it was all that big of a deal. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Hey Roger! See ya at training tomorrow night! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Becky Shilling wrote 12/19/2005 11:04 PM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Bob Scott ] #92780 - 12/19/2005 11:04 PM
Becky Shilling Webboard User Reg: 12-01-2005 Posts: 1009 Loc: OKC, Oklahoma Offline	Ewww! He is really lucky! I read a story back during last spring about a woman bitten who lost both legs. It's nothing to ignore. One of my kids had a swollen fat face the other morning, but we traced her problem to eating about a dozen tomatoes. I had picked dozens before our first hard freeze. I made fried green tomatoes till we were nearly green ourselves and left the rest to ripen in bowls. They started to draw little fruit flys, so I threw them out for the dogs/birds to eat. The big dogs have always eaten tomatoes with no problem, but I guess Maggie ( a Schipperke/Pom X) just gorged on them. A couple Benadryl and a long nap later, she was good as new.
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Sammy Blondin wrote 12/20/2005 06:22 AM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #92781 - 12/20/2005 06:22 AM
Sammy Blondin Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2002 Posts: 308 Loc: Offline	I have had three with spider bites. We are pretty sure they were brown recluse,especially with the first two, but not 100%. One was on the side of a dog, the other on the neck. The skin literally rotted away, black.. was super nasty.. didn't bother those two at all. Once all healed the fur grew back a funny color. The other one, which just happened this month wasn't as nasty at the site of the bite, but it swelled up the whole of his leg to the point at first we thought he had terrible hips, then he chewed away a huge patch on his back end. Antibiotics and a tube of cream and 1 weeks later and he is all good. Our kennels are hidden in the middle of woods on our property, I can only imagine the creepy crawlies in there!
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Ed Frawley wrote 12/20/2005 10:42 AM Re: Brown recluse spider bite [Re: Sammy Blondin ] #92782 - 12/20/2005 10:42 AM
Ed Frawley Administrator Reg: 07-11-2001 Posts: 2112 Loc: Offline	Sammy - I know your kennels are in the woods. Do you still spray for spiders? and if so what product do you use? Frawley@leerburg.com http://www.leerburg.com
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