Scott Williams wrote 02/07/2006 09:36 AM Plastic Hand #97378 - 02/07/2006 09:36 AM
Scott Williams Webboard User Reg: 04-08-2002 Posts: 383 Loc: Offline	Does anybody know where to buy a decent plastic hand on a stick to deal with potential food aggression and other forms of aggression? thanks.
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Al Curbow wrote 02/07/2006 10:58 AM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Scott Williams ] #97379 - 02/07/2006 10:58 AM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	Scott, aren't you concerned that you'll trigger food aggression with a fake hand? I hate when i see that on tv. None of my dogs have food aggression, but i think if i introduced a plastic hand while they were eating, 2 of them would learn it pretty quick , AL
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Bob Scott wrote 02/07/2006 02:56 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Scott Williams ] #97380 - 02/07/2006 02:56 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	When I see that done on AP, I always wonder, if a dog will go after a glove on a stick, why wouldn't it go after just about anything you disturb their meal with, such as a broom handle. In other words, I don't know if the plastic hand is really necessary to test for food aggression. JMHO! old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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jeff oehlsen wrote 02/07/2006 03:09 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Scott Williams ] #97381 - 02/07/2006 03:09 PM
jeff oehlsen Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2002 Posts: 1303 Loc: Colorado Offline	I have had rescues that you could take the food from them, but if you used the "hand" they would grab it. I absolutely do not like that test. I am smarter than my dog, your just not.
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 02/07/2006 03:21 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: jeff oehlsen ] #97382 - 02/07/2006 03:21 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	How about just not annoying your dog while he's trying to eat? I don't like it when people wave their hand in front of my face when I'm trying to eat either <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Or is this whole "being able to annoy your dog while eating" thing actually something that's important? I've never had a problem with food aggression so maybe I'm missing something?
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Kristine Velasco wrote 02/07/2006 03:44 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Scott Williams ] #97383 - 02/07/2006 03:44 PM
Kristine Velasco Webboard User Reg: 11-27-2005 Posts: 297 Loc: Offline	I deal with food aggression if it's there. If it's not, I leave the dog be.
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Bob Scott wrote 02/07/2006 03:59 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #97384 - 02/07/2006 03:59 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	I would think there would be big liability issues with adoption agencys if they placed dogs with aggression problems. Because my grandkids are over so often, I work hard to make sure those food issues don't exits here. It's easy enough to say keep the kids away while they are eating. We DO that, but with 4 gkids from 8yrs old, down to 1 yr old, and another due next week, I HAVE to be sure accidents wont happen. Sometimes the little beast are hard to control. The dogs, on the other hand, are a piece of cake. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Al Curbow wrote 02/07/2006 07:50 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Bob Scott ] #97385 - 02/07/2006 07:50 PM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	I'm always stuck on this point, it takes most dogs under a minute to eat, if your dog is food aggressive, isn't it up to the responsable owner to keep anyone away from the dog for one whole minute, and if that's to hard to do , wouldn't you( not you bob, just in general) just feed the dog in the crate, i set their food down and it's gone in under a minute, i guess i don't know if any of mine have food agression because i never mess with it once i feed them, AL
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Bob Scott wrote 02/07/2006 08:31 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Al Curbow ] #97386 - 02/07/2006 08:31 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Al, I understand your thoughts on this. For myself, I live in a small (860sq ft)house. The only dog that is crated is my JRT, and that's only at night. My kids are over often, with their kids. This weekend, for instance, we had the family Superbowl party here. My grandkids LOVE to feed the dogs. I started when they were tiny babys in getting the dogs adjusted to them. That in no way means they have free run around the dogs. It just means I've tried to prepare for ANY problems between the gkids and my dogs. I did the same with my own kids. I would compair this to keeping a fire extinguisher handy in the kitchen. No one is going to intentionally put themself, or their family in danger of a kitchen fire. You teach the kids to stay away from the stove, etc, but $#!+ happens. Why not be prepaired for the possibility! Does that make more sense? old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Bob Scott wrote 02/07/2006 08:45 PM Re: Plastic Hand [Re: Bob Scott ] #97387 - 02/07/2006 08:45 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	I might add: The way my kids, gkids and dogs were brought up, even my, sometimes nasty, JRT will come to a sit, with his tail wagging when the gkids walk by. ALL my dogs have learned that a kid around the food dish often means a treat is comming. That's not for everybody, but It's the way I've done it for 35yrs, since my firts daughter was born. No doubt there are dogs out there that wouldn't, maybe couldn't do this, but it's something I demand. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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