<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Somehow, seeing the video of a dog grab a sleeve on a guy climbing over a fence, giving up a perfectly good leg in the process, doesn't hold a candle to this video! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Thanks!
I really like those dogs-fast, agile, driven, full bites. Pups very impressive at 12 weeks too-a little early for me, but if they got it, they got it. Nice display and work.
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003
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Barbara Erdman,
You asked a question in the previous thread, I hope that this video here answers the question with:
Clean obedience under extreme distractions versus obedience needing three commands - big difference.
Bite work under intense decoy pressure versus cookie bites on an offered sleeve - big difference.
PPD's *can* be tested via Reality Sports fairly effectively nowadays, so when you hear the "my dogs aren't sport dogs" from a ppd vendor, ya'll might want to take that statement with a grain of salt.
Wow I am also impressed. Being a n00b in the dog world I've been easily impressed by lesser videos in the past but I think this sets the bar a bit higher.
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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OK what is everyones professional opinion of the puppy doing work with a decoy at 12 weeks of age? I remember a quote from a Leerburg DVD that went something like this...
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Even though a dog might be able to do helper work before 12 months old, doesn't mean he should.
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Since it's not a direct quote I won't put it as a quote, but that's the jist of it.
The level off training at 12 weeks as shown in this video is lower than the training we do with our puppies at 8 weeks. Here it is bite and reward. in Belgian ring we train bite/oposition and reward. My pup who now has 12 weeks has been put "on the leg" last week and he has to hold on for more than 30 seconds with opposition from the decoy befor he gets his reward. In BR training the decoy doesn't "present" the sleeve in front of the dogs mouthbut the dog has to get it even trough and over different objects. (only a few metres)
In Belgian Ring Bitetraining starts at 4 weeks. Obedience comes much later.
This being said, nice video off another type off training. Not my style, prefer a full mouth and a lower legbite. But that is probabely due to the program i train in
Even though a dog might be able to do helper work before 12 months old, doesn't mean he should
>Hi MIke
>It depends on the dog (and breed)
>GSD's tend to be a lot slower to mature than Dutch >Shepherds. The sessions at 12 weeks are more environmental
>distractions with bite work, than hard core bite work.
>Mal and DS doing any kind of Ring work, tend to start
>much much earlier than GSD's doing Schutzhund.
>The main point in starting dogs young, is to keep it in
>prey. I've known several nice young Dobermanns, who were
>ruined by working in Defense too young :-(
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Nice VIDEO
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