puppy training causing family dispute
#103259 - 04/05/2006 03:15 PM |
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Calling any dog trainers or anyone with an opinion,here's my problem:I've got a 3yr old GSD that I've trained myself since he was a pup.My girlfriend and I just got another GSD.He is 5mos. old and I've been training him in basic obedience and will continue with some specialized training.I've tried to explain to her that when training there can only be one pack leader and she is feeling snubbed.She wants to play an equal role in the pups training for fear that he will listen to me more than her.I've tried explaining that after the initial bond has been developed the dog will listen to both of us and suggested taking the dog on training walks by herself as long as the commands stay the same,but she's afraid I think that the dog will respect me more.She wasn't around for the first dog and I've clearly established my role with him,the pup sees me control dog #1 and I feel seeing that helps establish my role as pack leader.Any thoughts on this??
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Re: puppy training causing family dispute
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#103260 - 04/05/2006 03:31 PM |
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Even if you have the inclination to do the majority of the actual "formal" obedience training and that sort of thing, she can help out a lot with the groundwork stuff. For example, she can be the one to put the pup on a down stay to work for his food when he gets fed. She can make him sit before the leash goes on to go outside or have him do a roll over before he gets his belly scratched. Little stuff like that for groundwork is just as important as going out to the training area. I am definitely the alpha female and do just about 100% of the formal training, but my fiance (who the dogs didn't respect as much, but now they do) has been working with them to make them sit when comes over and I have him feed them at least 3-4 days a week from a down stay as well.
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#103261 - 04/05/2006 04:21 PM |
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Re: puppy training causing family dispute
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#103262 - 04/05/2006 05:49 PM |
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I agree with Jeff, why can't you teach your girlfriend to be 'lead' and teach the dog? That way you can still focus on your dog and just help with hers.
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Re: puppy training causing family dispute
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#103263 - 04/05/2006 05:58 PM |
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Ha! It sounds like my family! When I first started dog training this fall, I was mortified to realize that my husband and I both couldn't be in the training classes. Up until then we had both been equally involved in everything with our dog.
Now, of course, it makes sense why couldn't both work with him in a training class...how confusing! However, I really don't think it's made a difference in how much he respects us both diferentially. I've just made sure that my husband uses the same commands we're learning, and he makes an effort to learn what I've learned each week.
I agree that your girlfriend can be dominant too, she just needs to be involved, and give the dog tasks to work through.
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#103264 - 04/05/2006 06:30 PM |
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As long as you work on separate exercises while the dog is in the learning phase, I see no problems. JMHO
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#103265 - 04/06/2006 11:50 AM |
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I really don't have a problem with her being the lead ,but won't that confuse the older dog about who's the lead?I'd like to train him for therapy work which I'll probably be doing with him,so wouldn't I need to be the lead (honest it's not my ego talking ,I just want to do what's best for the dogs )
Thanks for the input.
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#103266 - 04/06/2006 12:02 PM |
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In short? No! A dog person can't share a dog with another person as you're finding out. Even in households where both are dog people, you find that each really has at least ONE of their own dogs, even if one or two are "family/couple" dogs. I can't share my dogs it's like sharing UNDERWEAR! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#103267 - 04/06/2006 12:47 PM |
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We have the same thing going on at our house. Our 3yr. old female GSD is trained by my husband and has been since she was 8wks. old. I train our 6mth. old male GSD. We both feed and play with the dogs together, but they identify with us individually for training. The female is sweet to me but clearly is my husband's dog. Likewise the male will play with my husband but he is clearly my dog. It just seems to work out this way.
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#103268 - 04/07/2006 03:30 AM |
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It can have it's advantages you can do all the correcting and she can do all the petting!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> In my own experience, I train all the dogs, but they listen to both my husband and son, they take over as pack leaders if I am not home,neither of them ever formally trained, any of our dogs, that was always my job <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />But they are very obedient, to both of them,in my absence, we all take turns feeding them,grooming them, and walking them, Sometimes dogs choose people, I bought a female for myself, that went and bonded to my husband, bummer for me, but I still ended up training her <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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