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#103370 - 04/06/2006 04:09 PM |
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Hello,
I have two questions regarding obedience training and wanted some advice from you guys/gals out there. First, when I fuss with my GSD and put him in a sit, he sits at a 45 degree angle. I searched this website and read somewhere to try to it against a wall, fence, etc... Well that works fine except when I try without the wall he sits back at an angle. I've been told to use food (hotdogs) and walk in a small circle putting him in a sit every so often and rewarding him with sits flush with me. This isnt working well either. Does anyone have experience with this.
Secondly, when I eventually get him to the point where he understands the proper sit position, I want to be able to call him to me and have him approach me from the front, go around my back from the right side, and sit on my left side. I've searched this website and the internet to no avail. Is there a name for this maneuver. This is the first dog I've attempted to do more advanced training with so any insight would be much appreciated.
-Elliot
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#103371 - 04/06/2006 04:12 PM |
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Oh my hat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> I was just about to post the same question!!! Very curious for some of the answers...
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#103372 - 04/06/2006 04:22 PM |
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Are you using treats/toys as a reward of the sit? Often times a dog will sit at a 45 degree angle for one of two reasons, the first being that the dog does not know how to sit properly and consequently sits crooked in the heel position. The second reason being that if you are rewarding out of your right hand, the dog will sit in a position where he can more easily see your hand reach across your body for the reward.
I am not good at step by step instructions but I am sure someone who is while chip in with advice. Simply put, I would ensure that your dog is doing a proper upright sit and than when working on the sit in heel position, either use your left hand for the reward or heel forward, release and than bring out the toy/treat.
as for the go around deal, it is called the "finish" there is the swing/flip finish and the around finish (the one in which you are describing). Besides Ed's wealth of knowledge on this site and its messageboard, this is another good place for information:
http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/obed.htm
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#103373 - 04/06/2006 05:03 PM |
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Oh my hat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> I was just about to post the same question!!! Very curious for some of the answers...
Here's an interesting viewpoint (about not correcting a crooked sit with your hands):
http://www.shirleychong.com/keepers/archives/sits.txt
Also, Ingrid, THANK YOU for that link!
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#103374 - 04/06/2006 05:12 PM |
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Thanks for the link and sorry for steeling this post <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#103375 - 04/06/2006 05:20 PM |
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Thanks for the link and sorry for steeling this post <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
You didn't, I don't think!
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#103376 - 04/06/2006 05:21 PM |
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Yes I do reward (hotdogs) from my right hand. I also switch it up sometimes and use a tennis ball on a string, (my ghetto version of the orbee ball) and tuck the string into my shirt or hold it under my chin. I then release the ball, letting him grab it as it nears his mouth. Would putting hotdog pieces in my mouth and droping them to him be a good route to go while using hotdogs.
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#103377 - 04/06/2006 05:38 PM |
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(i use my left hand but i only have a probleem when coming from the here to the foot, odd, i know) spoken in a whisper <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#103378 - 04/06/2006 06:20 PM |
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Yes I do reward (hotdogs) from my right hand. I also switch it up sometimes and use a tennis ball on a string, (my ghetto version of the orbee ball) and tuck the string into my shirt or hold it under my chin. I then release the ball, letting him grab it as it nears his mouth. Would putting hotdog pieces in my mouth and droping them to him be a good route to go while using hotdogs.
Lots of people use the treat-in-mouth thing very successfully, I am learning. I am also learning that if the dog doesn't catch it very well, it kinda ruins the performance if he then goes to pick it up! LOL! (Just a thing with me and one dog....)
I wanted to mention that tennis balls are made with a glue that, combined with the dog's saliva, dissolves the dog's tooth enamel, and for that reason should be used only in the water (lake, etc.). I read this first on Leerburg.com, and am almost quoting Ed on the subject, and since then have read it several other places (vet sites).
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#103379 - 04/06/2006 06:26 PM |
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Guess I'll be buying an Orbee ball then. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for your insight.
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