Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005
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I have a question for the experienced EDD trainers/handlers out there.
I have a relative who works for a construction company; this company deals with demolition among other things. They are looking to clear a large area of unexploded TNT and Amex based devises with bomb sniffing dogs. My question is this, in an area where some devices have been detonated and some may not have blown, will there be residual odor that would cause the dog to give false indications or be too confusing for the dog (with the volume of scent in the area), thereby missing a live devise? And if this is the case, can this problem be overcome with the proper training?
In addition, I have found that information on the subject of explosives detection is in short supply on the forum when compared to other working dog topics. Does anyone know of any good sources of training info either inside or outside of the forum that you might direct me to?
Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005
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David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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In short, EDD dogs can be used as to assist postblast. Yes there can be residual. Yes, depending on the training recieved, it can be confusing. I don't think a well trained dog will miss a device because of it. One of the reasons for a lack of information on any public forum, EDD trainers are hesitant to discuss tactics etc. Rightfully so, while dog training in and of it'self is not rocket science, explosives detection is a critical task. Training techniques at times can be discussed. The strengths and weaknesses are best left to private discussions.
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Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005
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David, thanks for clearing that up for me; and yes David, that is a really good point you made about public discussions on this topic.
Considering my own career goals I wouldn't want those who would plant such a device, for the purpose of creating casualties, to have even a base knowledge of the in's and out's of the techniques used to prevent against such activities either. I will keep that in mind on any future posts regarding this subject.
That being said.. is there anyone interested in corrosponding with me on the subject? I realize that is quite an abrupt request for someone you may only know of by a name on an internet board.. but I'd be happy to discuss my intentions for this request with anyone, on the level, that might be willing to share some of their experience with me.
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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Brad,
Just in case you havent had any takers....David's response pretty much says it all. Find someone with a well trained dog who is a good experienced handler and that is all you need. I've had a post blast search before and it isn't that difficult with a seasoned dog. Happy hunting
FYI - This is a scenario where time and weather conditions can be your friend. Standard practice for a postblast investigation envolves cordoning off the area and waiting to search for forty-eight hours. Allow nature to eliminate some of the scent clutter for you.
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