http://www.mahottoman.com/jalostus.html

Much of the information is not in english, but the pedigree and some of the other information should be understandable.

I don't have any idea about his pedigree...but he sure ain't gonna win Westminster or Crufts! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Don't kill me for this question...

What breed is this dog? No offence I really have never seen this breed before...or at least that I remember.

~Jamie

From what little I could decipher, it looks like it is some sort of Malinois cross (?)

The dog looks really skinny! Yeah never seen it. How did you come across it?

You can never be too rich or too thin <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. It sort of looks like a Mal w/floppy ears, but the curl of the tail makes me think of a dog I saw once and can't remember the name of...if I think of it, I'll post it.

It looks like a Anatolian X Mal(just an off the cuff thought). But not as big as that cross might produce. Anyway he looks like a good worker and I love his coloring. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I just went back and looked at the pedigree, even though I couldn't read most of it, it seems that it says both parents are Mals. All the dogs on the pedigree are titled in either SchH or Ringsport. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> so I guess its not a cross.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

It's a 5 year old Belgian Malinois (but has floppy ears). He's being used in breeding programs for working malinois , but isn't being used in SCH competition himself because he doesn't track well enough.

The text has been loosely translated for me, one of the things it talks about is the dog's drives being really great. I think it also said that his puppies end up with great drive too.

I might be getting this dog as a ppd. The dog's trainer and another trainer who knows and has been around the dog (including in a social setting in which the dog was loose in the owner's house with guests visiting) are telling me that he's the right dog for that job.

This brings me to a QUESTION if you guys don't mind? When a decoy tests a dog to demonstrate it's reaction to civil aggression, firstly, what kind of scenarios should I expect or suggest the dog to be demoed in, and secondly, what kind of reactions (exactly) should I expect out of the dog during the scenarios? I would obviously recognize a dog that doesn't give a shit at all, but I am mainly wondering if there are subtle things during the scenarios that I should be watching for.

Both of the people who will be showing me the dog are much more experienced than I am, is the case, and I do in fact trust them to be helping me make a good decision. But I still like to understand as much as possible myself, as I'm the one who ultimately lives with the decision.

That dog being used in a breeding programme <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Then they are in serious lack off dogs. He may be good at his work but isn't breedingstock quality. To many "flaws".

As for a scenario why not do the following:

The handler starts walking and after a few metres a decoy commes towards you trying to get the dog to bite without phisical agression towards the handler. 10 metres further the handler sits down on a chair and the decoy takes a chair and sits in front off the handler. At a signal the handler and decoy raise simultanious and go seperat ways. The handler goes to a person and stands back to back to him. the decoy comes towards the handler and shakes his hand. The person standing wxith his back to the handler gives the heel order and leaves. The handler and preferably his dog leave the opposit direction 5 counts later towards a hideout and stands in front of. The decoy goes in front of the handler into the hideout tapping it with a stick. Inside the hideout a hidden person continues to tap the hideout with the stick. The decoy comes out the other end, behind the dog, and engages in phisical contact. The dog bites

If the dog stays at your side and only bites at the end the wright person you've a well trained dog

Greetings

Johan

(ps this is a very difficult scenario for defence off handler taken from a BR training last year.)