How come that when i see American and British sites selling Malinois they come, most off the time, from the Netherlands and France. Rarely from Belgium. Whereas the French and Dutch come to Belgium to buy dogs and we almost never see French or Dutch dogs in Belgium. In fact i've only seen one at the age of 10 months and that one disapeared afterwards.

Greetings

Johan

I think that the dutch dogs are often imported in the USA because it is thought that a dog with a KNPV title will make a good police dog and that KNPV has a realistic training program. The people doing KNPV often title a dog,sell it and start with another one. So a lot of dogs are offered for selling.
Perhaps IPO is considered less realistic and I think the handlers keep their dogs longer and do more matches with them. But many malinois or GSD handlers in the USA will pay a lot of money for a pup of one your top dogs such as Yagus or Eros

Simple answer to this.
Dutch dog brokers are very successful. They roam their contry for knopv dogs and knpv rejects, and people who thought it would be a good idea to get a working dog and now want to sell the dog, and any other source for titled, green, or patially trained dogs.
We do see some dogs from Belgium, I for one have bought more Belgian dogs than Dutch ones in the last 8 years or so.
I like them and their training is pretty easy to convert to police work if you know what the sport is about and know police work.
KNPV dogs have become pretty well picked over, pre-purchased prior to being titled even. They also have some behaviors that for US police work are frivolous and sometimes annoying and even some that get in the way of further training for a while.
But, the KNPV titled dogs have been touted as the fastest path to a street dog. I personally like to use a young dog with good foundations in IPO or Ring, one that seems like a bit of a handful and the owner looks at his dog and says....tooo much work for good points....and sells him.
Police work is less precise than Ring or even IPO. So, these dogs fit nicely into it.
Often the dogs I receive are 3/4 grip dogs. This really hurts the Ring guys and the IPO ones too in competition.

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How come that when i see American and British sites selling Malinois they come, most off the time, from the Netherlands and France. Rarely from Belgium. Whereas the French and Dutch come to Belgium to buy dogs and we almost never see French or Dutch dogs in Belgium. In fact i've only seen one at the age of 10 months and that one disapeared afterwards.

Greetings

Johan

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I think that the dutch dogs are often imported in the USA because it is thought that a dog with a KNPV title will make a good police dog and that KNPV has a realistic training program. The people doing KNPV often title a dog,sell it and start with another one. So a lot of dogs are offered for selling.
Perhaps IPO is considered less realistic and I think the handlers keep their dogs longer and do more matches with them. But many malinois or GSD handlers in the USA will pay a lot of money for a pup of one your top dogs such as Yagus or Eros

So the NVBK decission to put titles and categories on pedigrées probably will have a commercial influence

Greetings

Johan

Unfortunatly, yes. It will also be used to market a dog as ready for street work when this is not so.

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So the NVBK decission to put titles and categories on pedigrées probably will have a commercial influence

I believe this also has to do with shipping. It's cheaper to get a dog from those two than belgium.