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#106352 - 05/11/2006 03:32 PM |
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Ed has updated an article on preventing dog bites in children. Check out the new pictures. These parents are asking for trouble. That Mastiff not only could bite this baby but crush it as well. Here is the link
Prevent Dog Bites in Children
Karmen,Dante,Bodie,Sabre,Capone
http://www.vogelhausgsd.com
Abraxas
6/29/91-9/22/00
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Re: Updated article
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#106353 - 05/11/2006 03:55 PM |
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those pictures of the mastiff and the baby are indeed scary, and the dominance postures are clear.
i am wondering how ed got those photos. did the owners take them and share them thinking this was "cute" and showed the dog loves the baby?
i will say that i have owned this breed for 40 years and have never heard of an english mastiff attacking a child. bullmastiffs, other mastiff breeds, yes. but english mastiffs are so tolerant of children, even infants, it is astonishing, as a general rule. i consider them to be utterly trustworthy with children. they are exceedingly gentle.
but if that was my baby and dog in the picture, that dog would have been corrected so fast it would have made his head spin. (not to mention that it wouldn't have been allowed to happen in the first place.)
have the pictured mastiff and the baby continued to happily coexist?
does anyone know of purebred english mastiffs that have had altercations with children?
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Re: Updated article
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#106354 - 05/11/2006 04:08 PM |
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OMG those pictures are something scary. Years ago a friend of mine had a new baby & everytime she would come over, I would put up my GSD (this is a few dogs ago & the dog was about 2 at the time). Anyway, my friend didn't understand why I took such precautions - she thought I was silly. So one day I came out of the bathroom to find my friend had put her baby on the ground & let the dog in with the baby ON PURPOSE. As I came out the dog was just reaching his paw out to touch the baby on the face. I instantly called him & put him back outside, but it was a close call & I could just picture that big paw & nails ripping the babys' skin. Looking back, I really can't understand why the mother would do this with a newborn.
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Heart-stopping photos <:-(
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#106355 - 05/11/2006 04:24 PM |
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I'm not a Mastiff person, so I took this one to be a Neopolitan, at first glance -- Guess not (?) but whatever the breed, its owners are too stupid to live in letting any dog treat their infant that way !!!
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Re: Heart-stopping photos <:-(
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#106356 - 05/11/2006 04:29 PM |
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i looked at the pix again. conceivably he could be a neo--black brindle mastiffs are rare, and it's hard to tell from photos, he could be blue like a neo. also neos usually have cropped ears and tails, and much longer flews (lips). but on first glance it looks like a black brindle english mastiff to me.
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Stupid is as stupid does...
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#106357 - 05/11/2006 04:41 PM |
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No offense meant on your choice of friends, Susan <:-O
It's just that some people aren't dog-savvy, call animals "fur babies" & treat them like stuffed toys.
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Yes, as I said...
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#106358 - 05/11/2006 05:02 PM |
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Alice, I'm no expert on Mastiffs by any means, but this one looks like a blue to me & could even be a hybrid, for all I know (of course BYB don't always crop & dock either) -- Anyway, you're probably right about what breed it is though...
The thing I find so incredibly disturbing is that its owners are such naive & cavalier, or "kennel blind" parents <:-( No wonder something like 7% of all infant deaths result from dog-inflicted casualties!
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my english mastiffs have all adored children of all ages. usually upon seeing a small child they collapse to the ground and assume a very submissive and passive posture. heck, they do that when they see a cat! they are very, very careful around small children, not to bump them. my current boy is terribly careful around our cat, to not step on her, and the last two would let whole gangs of small children crawl all over them, while maintaining a submissive, relaxed posture.
that is more typical of the breed. the behavior of the dog in the picture is not.
but it is the behavior, not the breed that is at issue here. whichever breed that is, the behavior is profoundly frightening.
i think it would also be helpful to point out to ignorant dog owners what exactly it is about the dog's behavior that is dominant, so that they can recognize it when they see it. i.e., the head over the baby's back, the paw over the back, the towering posture in the first photo, etc.
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Re: Yes, as I said...
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That is a gorgeous dog!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> But those have to be the most irresponsible and moronic pictures I've ever seen in my life! That dog could very effortlessly break that babies back by accident, not even getting into the other factors <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Then it's of course the dogs fault, the breeds fault.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
That's not an EM, it's a neo or an Australian Bandog. That's my guess <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Yes, as I said...
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it could be a neo, barbara. i haven't seen any neos before without cropped ears. but a black brindle EM does also look like that. ben's dad is a black brindle.
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