Daniel P. Hughes Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2005
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I have been looking on this board but haven't found an answer yet. What is the best way to use the vibrate on a e collar. Associate as a marker or as a warning. what is better.
also I wanted to know the difference in nick low stem vs continuous low stem for training. Do they create a different attitude. I have the dvd of which Ed uses nick I also know that lou castle use continuous. I am not trying to pit one style to the other just wanted feedback on the differences.
Right now I am conditioning the dog for two weeks as Ed says on video.
Jennifer Hart Webboard User Reg: 07-24-2005
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I trained Remi with an eCollar (or we are still training, but I've been going on this for about 2 months)....here is my experience.
I don't have a vibrate, but rather a sound (high pitched beep when I press the button) I have been using this as reinforcement or marker along with my voice. He knows that when he hears that, he should come to me and then I give him praise/treat/toy whatever I'm using that day or session. Now, I can use that almost as a recall (not that I would ever count on that as my recall).
As for the nick vs. continous. I don't have an eCollar with a nick button - but I use the continous button as a nick button (only press it for a second and release). Remi seems to get this - the ONLY TIME I use continous (and not low stem) is when he is doing something REALLY wrong that is bad pack behavior.
Just my experience with Remi, and it's worked really well.
I've been using the e-collar for about 4 months but I use it allot. I use the pager as a pager, to get him to come to me. I use "To far, come, and heel with the pager" Basically the vibration gets him to come to me and after he sits and I reward, I either release him or heel him and continue on.
I use the nick as the first correction for disobedience. I then command again and if he still does not obey I use the continuous at the same level. He has never needed a 3rd command to obey. I have also been using the collar as a correction for aggression but very limited. Don't forget to still use treast or toys, some kind of reward.
Anne Vaini Webboard User Reg: 07-14-2005
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What is the best way to use the vibrate on a e collar. Associate as a marker or as a warning. what is better.
I do not use pager functions as I feel it makes the dog dependent on the collar.
I want the dog to respond to my voice, not the pager function of the collar.
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I wanted to know the difference in nick low stem vs continuous low stem for training. Do they create a different attitude.
I reserve continous for the moment when my dog says "screw you, I can work through these little nicks and do this anyway" Then I use continuous.
A continuous stim seems to be more obvious/painful than the nick when on the same level.
When I use continuous, it definitely lowers the dog's drive and makes it very aware of the collar. I am very careful to get the dog back into drive and continue collar conditioning after a continuous stim is needed.
With this said, I think I have only used the continuous stim once per dog I've trained with an ecollar.
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