I need some info on a Natural remedy for Demodex Canis (Red mange).
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It is localized, only two small spots. I've talked with our vet and he said to see if the dogs immune system will cure it.

I just want to help things along if I can.

Thanks for any responses in advance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hi Butch - is this a young dog or pup? A lot of times demodex does recede on its own in youngsters. Stress can also bring on demodex.
Do you deworm you dog(s) regularly with a broad spectrum wormer? Sometimes having internal parasites stresses the dog and brings on a patch of demodex. I have recently started my dogs on a regimen of oral diatomaceous earth(DE) in addition to my regular worming program to keep everyone healthy. Hopefully your dogs problem will recede on its own.

Lynn, it's my 12 month old bitch Fanni. She just went through her first heat cycle, and was boarded away from home for two weeks. I'm hoping the stress of the two could have brought this on.

Yes, all my dogs are on Sentinel, ADVANTIX.

Just a scary thought here. Alot of people I talk to believe demodex is a sign of a weaker immune system and is hereditary. Believing these dogs should not be bred. Anyone else here, heard of that?

Butch, I was reading in one of my books that most dogs have some Demodex mites in the pores of their skin. They acquire them early in life from their mothers. All the factors responsible for skin disease in the presence of this mite are not yet fully understood.A number of kennels have observed that certain females have a higher incidence of Demodex mange in their litters than others. This suggests that in some purebred dogsthere is lowered immunity to the mite. Symtoms appear at puberty.
After one or two months, the hair starts to grow back in. In three months the majority of cases are healed. Many cures attributed to drugs actually have been spontanious recoveries.
The generalized form progresses and gets worse. Treatment of the generalized form is prolonged and response is slow, often requireing frequent changes in meds. Treatment is with 4% Ronnel. If more than one-third of the skin is treated the dog is likely to develope signs of organophosphate poisoning (insecticide poisoning)
Dog Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook
by Delbert G. Carlson, DVM
and James M. Giffin, MD
Hope this helps!

Todd, Talking with our vet, he said that if the Demodex is localized and the dog heels itself then she is still breedable. :rolleyes:

However, if he has to treat her to cure the problem then YES, I'll have her spayed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
I hope not, Fanni is really coming along, great tracking and the OB is getting better and better every training session.

The hips turn out very good, then this crops up!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Sometimes you WIN and sometimes you LOSE, I think we will Win this Delimma!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I'm checking with the breeder to see if any of the other pups have the same concern.

Todd, have you experienced this before??

OLDE, At present she has a spot under her eye about the size of -2-dimes next to each other.

Our vet said that a heat cycle and stress could trigger a flare up.

I noticed it two weeks ago and it hasn't gotten any larger, it looked better before our vet scrapped to confirm his diagnois. Not as big.

If I have to spay her I'll get a titled female and not be bothered with raising a pup with all the uncertainties.

Butch, from what I've read, the localized form is'nt that big a deal, breeding or otherwise.

Well Butch I hope it heals by itself.

I came across it in rotties about 10 years ago. Only dog I have had that has had it. He was neutered.

Damn rotties anyway...lol

Butch, I looked up Sentinel(milbemycin oxide) and see it only does round, hook and whip. Seeing as she has been boarded etc you could worm with something more broad like Drontal Plus - expensive but will get everything. I usually use the appearance of a spot of demodex on the muzzle as a sign that the dog probably needs a worming. Maybe a stool sample to the vet would put your mind at ease that there is nothing going on internal parasite-wise. Any skin or coat problem I would supplement with zinc(use zinc gluconate or zinc methionine) as I really find it helps things recover faster. Salmon oil too.