Dennis Jones wrote 07/07/2006 09:00 AM k9 boot camp and heat stress #109236 - 07/07/2006 09:00 AM
Dennis Jones Webboard User Reg: 06-13-2004 Posts: 3389 Loc: Richmond Va Offline	I think that's the second time I've seen a GSD and a MALx with a heat stress injury, twice on that show and another show about mine detector dogs, again a GSD. Don't get me wrong I love my four but only two of them seem able to tolerate Southern summers and I'd better have shade and a pool for them, But they are WAY out of standard for GSDs. Does anybody have a recommendation of the most heat tolerant working dog breed you can get? Is there a line GSDs that are more tolerant?
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Luke Charlton wrote 07/07/2006 09:44 AM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Dennis Jones ] #109237 - 07/07/2006 09:44 AM
Luke Charlton Webboard User Reg: 08-04-2005 Posts: 149 Loc: Houston, TX Offline	Argentine Dogos, Pit Bulls and Boxers all tolerate the heat well when properly conditioned. We always had to be careful with the Shepherds and Rottweilers. Enzo v Messingsberg, IPO1
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Daniel Flores wrote 07/07/2006 06:24 PM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Luke Charlton ] #109238 - 07/07/2006 06:24 PM
Daniel Flores Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2006 Posts: 225 Loc: Northwest Arkansas Offline	I thought Pit bulls and Boxers get over heated more quickly than other dogs due to there short compressed muzzles not let enough air go through the body in hot weather (this is the same for bullgogs and other type of short compressed muzzle dogs, i.e. bully breeds). This is what I was told when I use to work for a boarding and grooming place. I had to stay outside with the dogs when they had to go outside during break or if there was a boxer or bulldog in the daycare bunch. Please correct me if I am wrong and sorry for causing confusion. Abigal von der Mueller
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James Edward Bliss, Jr. wrote 07/07/2006 06:46 PM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Daniel Flores ] #109239 - 07/07/2006 06:46 PM
James Edward Bliss, Jr. Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2005 Posts: 88 Loc: DeWitt, Michigan Offline	I would think that dogs with a short coat and thin athletic bodies like a Doberman or likewise would be a good summer dog compared to the GSD that is more suitable for climates like where I live in Michigan. Plus, you have to remember that the heat index is higher for all dogs than people as they don't sweat and have higher body temperatures than humans. That K9 Boot Camp show on Animal Planet had dogs training on days where I think they would have hung "black flags" restricting the physical activities of human military. "Utility and intelligence." Rittmeister Max Emil Friedrich von Stephanitz.
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Luke Charlton wrote 07/07/2006 08:48 PM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: James Edward Bliss, Jr. ] #109240 - 07/07/2006 08:48 PM
Luke Charlton Webboard User Reg: 08-04-2005 Posts: 149 Loc: Houston, TX Offline	Well I've had shepherds, rottweilers, and a few hunting spaniels have heat stroke. In the same places, south florida and the swamps of Georgia, I've done extensive hunting with Dogos and pit bulls with never having an incident. My Boxers have always been my most athletic dogs running alongside my horses all day helping round up cattle and just general palling around, chasing four wheelers etc, also never an incident. Enzo v Messingsberg, IPO1
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Andy Andrews wrote 07/08/2006 09:26 AM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Dennis Jones ] #109241 - 07/08/2006 09:26 AM
Andy Andrews Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2005 Posts: 99 Loc: Offline	My friend who lives in the Phillipines works his GSD/Mal/Dutchies all day during the summer months. He doesn't seem to have any problems with their ability to handle the heat, even the with the puppies. The dogs are fed raw and they're allowed to drink when and whereever they come across water. If their training day ends up near a body of water(ie: man-tracking/hiking), they allow the dogs to have a good swim. Aside from that they get a good drenching from the water hose only after the training day is over. He says it usually takes imported dogs about 3-4 months to get acclimated to the tropical environment. Andy.
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Daniel Flores wrote 07/09/2006 01:46 AM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Andy Andrews ] #109242 - 07/09/2006 01:46 AM
Daniel Flores Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2006 Posts: 225 Loc: Northwest Arkansas Offline	So dogs that are born in the sothern states or places with hot months are going to be naturally more tolerant to the weather, regardless of it's breed? Abigal von der Mueller
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Andy Andrews wrote 07/09/2006 07:43 AM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Daniel Flores ] #109243 - 07/09/2006 07:43 AM
Andy Andrews Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2005 Posts: 99 Loc: Offline	Daniel, My friend has both imported dogs and those he has bred himself. So, I don't know if it's due solely to native location, genetics, or how they're acclimated to their environment. I live in FL and I never experienced problems with the dogs I've had so long as they were hydrated and well conditioned. But then again, they weren't herders wearing winter coats either! <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I suspect it's probably a combination of genetic health, conditioning, and acclimation which leads to better heat tolerence. That's just the opinion of a newb though, so take it for what it's worth. Andy.
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Mary K.Pope wrote 07/09/2006 02:49 PM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Dennis Jones ] #109244 - 07/09/2006 02:49 PM
Mary K.Pope Webboard User Reg: 08-24-2005 Posts: 361 Loc: Northern California Offline	I noticed on the K9 Boot camp show that the dogs were wearing muzzles. Do you think they may have reduced the dog's ability to cool down by panting??
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James Edward Bliss, Jr. wrote 07/09/2006 03:44 PM Re: k9 boot camp and heat stress [Re: Mary K.Pope ] #109245 - 07/09/2006 03:44 PM
James Edward Bliss, Jr. Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2005 Posts: 88 Loc: DeWitt, Michigan Offline	Yes, I think that wearing the muzzles for too long a period out in that heat wouldn't be a good idea. "Utility and intelligence." Rittmeister Max Emil Friedrich von Stephanitz.
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