 training non protection dog in drive
#109406 - 07/10/2006 01:02 PM |
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Is there any benefit to training a dog in drive that will never do competition or protection work? I'm new at this and I'm trying to find out where I want my Jack Russell Terrier's training to go. Is drive training just for protection work or can it be used for little dogs that just have a very high drive? Please don't laugh at my question, I'm afraid I might be way off on what drive training is. Do people ever do bite work with JRT's?(Just Kidding)
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Re: training non protection dog in drive
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#109407 - 07/10/2006 01:08 PM |
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I saw a video of one that did. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I do drive work and grip work with our mini-Dachshund, mostly for my own experience. His grip is good now, for something that started out as a typewriter-type dog. I don't know what good it does HIM apart from exercise and fun, as well as being able to focus his drive into something. Not that I can exactly do obedience with him, since I'll break my back otherwise.
...drive work is, basically, making the dog go crazy for an item and focusing on it so that it becomes useable in a variety of applications, especially obedience and protection...
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#109408 - 07/10/2006 01:31 PM |
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Awesome. I just want to have full control in all situations. I realize that doing basic obedience in alot of environments and different situations will help him be able to focus on me. Is it drive that makes them want to chase cats and other dogs and will training in drive make it easier to control and refocus them when those unavoidable situations come up? Thanks for the quick reply.
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I saw a video of one that did. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />...
I just saw photos today of a Border Terrier on the bite suit. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#109410 - 07/10/2006 05:38 PM |
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...training in 'prey' drive actually makes it easier for the dog to, for lack of a better word, 'flip out' over fast moving objects, so you need to train against that. However it's a very valuable tool for teaching your dog specific behaviors without stress. Training in drive also makes for ultra fast obedience. And yes, training in drive can make your dog very focused on you, especially if you couple it with positive training.
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#109411 - 07/10/2006 09:22 PM |
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One of our Schutzhund instructors also teaches a drive based obedience class which is quite popular. I'd ask Old Earth Dog Bob Scott, but JRTs are usually very game and I would certainly think they would enjoy a good tug as a reward.
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#109412 - 07/10/2006 09:41 PM |
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I was planning on finishing up with the basic obedience to make sure he understands the commands and then going in to the drive training. Is that normal or do you just start with the drive training? Would a video like the Training drive, focus, and grip be a good place to start or would that be too much? This stuff has changed so much than when I trained my first dog. She must have been a very fast learner because I see now that I did everything wrong.(Way too much force, but she never lost an ounce of spirit) Also, thanks to everyone for all the help. I was afraid I would get laughed at for my question.
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Re: training non protection dog in drive
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#109413 - 07/10/2006 09:49 PM |
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Up to you. I always start out with food and move to drive work when the dog understands the command cause it's a little harder to control a dog when in full prey drive. The video is very good but as I see it it shouldn't make much of a difference to you since you're not going to exactly planning to develop grip or focus work or whatever (unless you are going to be teaching yourself for when you get a bigger dog <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />  .
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#109414 - 07/10/2006 10:15 PM |
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Are there any other books or videos you would recommend? I'm understanding a lot better exactly what it is, but am not sure where to start. I'm always cautious about trying something until I know I understand.
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#109415 - 07/10/2006 11:51 PM |
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I'm interested in drive training techniqes too and I also don't own a German Shepherd or protection dog. I've got a hound mix that serves as my pet and faithful companion.
There is a good book by Kevin Behan called Natural Dog Training. You can order it on amazon.com. I just started it, but it seems his training philosophy is based on channeling prey drive and it's geared toward pet owners.
You should also pick up the Leerburg video, Training Drive, Focus and Grip. Even if you're not into protection training, it's still facsinating to watch.
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