Brian Banks wrote 09/26/2006 10:43 AM Need size, brand & model recommendation #114581 - 09/26/2006 10:43 AM
Brian Banks Webboard User Reg: 08-20-2006 Posts: 19 Loc: Offline	I posted yesterday about Dozer (200lb Eng. Mastiff) and his issues and am really leaning towards doing some Ecollar training with him. I was wondering what size/model/brand would best suite a dog his size? Thanks for your input! B.B
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Candi Campbell wrote 09/26/2006 01:24 PM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Brian Banks ] #114582 - 09/26/2006 01:24 PM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 02-06-2006 Posts: 696 Loc: San Francisco, CA Offline	Fit him for a top-o-the-line muzzle first (!) then if the e-collar just pisses him off enough so that he re-directs all that aggression onto his handler, at least you'll only end up in the ER instead of the morgue <:-O How anyone can live without a dog is beyond me...
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Brian Banks wrote 09/26/2006 01:34 PM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Candi Campbell ] #114583 - 09/26/2006 01:34 PM
Brian Banks Webboard User Reg: 08-20-2006 Posts: 19 Loc: Offline	We've gotten the muzzle, but I really need some feedback on which Ecollar to get for him (being 200+lbs and all). He has never redirected his aggression towards any of us. I've dealt with aggressive dogs who have and am very confident he will not. Though we do err on the side of caution, but it is very unlikely. Now with an ecollar it may be a whole new ballgame. We'll see. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated. B.B
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Trent Bond wrote 09/26/2006 03:42 PM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Brian Banks ] #114584 - 09/26/2006 03:42 PM
Trent Bond Webboard User Reg: 01-14-2005 Posts: 155 Loc: Beaumont, Texas Offline	I like the Dogtra 1500. You might want to look through the choice of e-collars on this site. There is an explanation about the benfits of the different types of e-collars. Also you should also get Ed's e-collar video Good Luck
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Candi Campbell wrote 09/26/2006 05:09 PM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Trent Bond ] #114585 - 09/26/2006 05:09 PM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 02-06-2006 Posts: 696 Loc: San Francisco, CA Offline	Yep, I'd get these first: http://www.leerburg.com/301.htm http://www.leerburg.com/318.htm Then decide which high-end remote trainer will best suit your dog's needs... How anyone can live without a dog is beyond me...
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Barbara Erdman wrote 09/26/2006 11:58 PM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Brian Banks ] #114586 - 09/26/2006 11:58 PM
Barbara Erdman Webboard User Reg: 10-20-2005 Posts: 335 Loc: Long Island Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/27/2006 12:19 AM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Candi Campbell ] #114587 - 09/27/2006 12:19 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Yep, I'd get these first: http://www.leerburg.com/301.htm http://www.leerburg.com/318.htm Then decide which high-end remote trainer will best suit your dog's needs... Me too! Absolutely!
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John E. Araman wrote 09/27/2006 01:12 AM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #114588 - 09/27/2006 01:12 AM
John E. Araman Webboard User Reg: 02-02-2005 Posts: 220 Loc: Offline	And if you're like me and can't wait.. Just get the Dogtra 1700 NCP.. I've had mine for a month now.. I love the fact that I can see exactly how much stimulation I'm giving. Plus.. you won't be using the e-collar straight away.. you need to go through the "conditioning phase" where you teach your dog to ignore the collar going on and off.. Regards,
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alice oliver wrote 09/29/2006 09:20 AM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: Barbara Erdman ] #114589 - 09/29/2006 09:20 AM
alice oliver Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005 Posts: 843 Loc: Offline	working Mastiff
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Jenni Williams wrote 09/29/2006 10:36 AM Re: Need size, brand & model recommendation [Re: alice oliver ] #114590 - 09/29/2006 10:36 AM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Brian, I'm not sure that the ecollar effectiveness has as much to do with weight as we may think; I know some 200lb men who've, um, experimented with it and they were sorry they did! I think any of the suggested models would be fine. I also disagree with Barbara's post; I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that he won't redirect on you. Good for you for trying to fix this instead of ignoring it or continuing to bring the dog in public with an "oh well, 200lb Dozer hates other dogs" attitude. YOU know the dog; we don't. We all suggested caution originally-it's up to you now. I know that most un-savvy dog people think I'm absolutely insane for even approaching my dog, let alone grabbing him dog when he's in his Cujo mode, but I know my dog, I know what the object of his aggression is, and I trust that he will not redirect at me. Of course, nothing is for certain and there are no guarantees.But,all I will say is GOOD LUCK.
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