dawn harris wrote 09/26/2006 06:15 PM My baby died having her babies #114654 - 09/26/2006 06:15 PM
dawn harris Webboard User Reg: 09-26-2006 Posts: 6 Loc: Offline	On Saturday morning I awoke to find my pregnant Jack Russell Terrier trying to have her puppies. She was very weak, and I called the vet and she said I would have to help her to get them out. We got all five out, one died. Then their mother started going into convulsions. I called the vet, who said to bring her in right away, but before I could get her out the door, she passed away. I am having a really hard time with it, mainly because I feel guilty for not being able to help her. I have been bottle feeding her puppies, and they have been doing pretty well, even gaining weight. But one of them stopped eating last night, and today I noticed blood coming out of his rear. I am sure that he is sick, but I really don't know what to do. I just keep taking care of him along with the rest, hoping for the best for him. I can't lose him, I have to do right by his mother. But I really don't know what to do. Can anyone help me?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/26/2006 06:24 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: dawn harris ] #114655 - 09/26/2006 06:24 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: On Saturday morning I awoke to find my pregnant Jack Russell Terrier trying to have her puppies. She was very weak, and I called the vet and she said I would have to help her to get them out. We got all five out, one died. Then their mother started going into convulsions. I called the vet, who said to bring her in right away, but before I could get her out the door, she passed away. I am having a really hard time with it, mainly because I feel guilty for not being able to help her. I have been bottle feeding her puppies, and they have been doing pretty well, even gaining weight. But one of them stopped eating last night, and today I noticed blood coming out of his rear. I am sure that he is sick, but I really don't know what to do. I just keep taking care of him along with the rest, hoping for the best for him. I can't lose him, I have to do right by his mother. But I really don't know what to do. Can anyone help me? First, all we can do is our best. You did your best. Second, your focus now has to be on the babies. Others here can help with that, but I think they will say that the bleeding one has to see a vet. I have posted a web page with all kinds of info for raising and socializing orphaned puppies, and I'll dig it up. All you can do with the babies is your best, too, by the way. After you do your best, it's out of your hands. EDITing: OK, I found it. Note that on the long list of subjects at the bottom, each title is a link. This page is crammed with info and links. http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding/bottlefeeding.htm
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/26/2006 07:49 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #114656 - 09/26/2006 07:49 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I saw this on that web site I gave you above. QUOTE: Orphan puppies less than one week old must be stimulated to urinate and eliminate. This is accomplished by gentle massage of the abdomen and genital area with a piece of cotton wool or tissue, dampened with warm water. END That first page of the site has a lot of "helpful hints" that apply to the first few days. I looked at one of those links down below, called Neonatal Care for Orphaned Puppies (PDF format), and it too looked very practical and helpful. I'd print a few of those pages and read them that way, since from the stuff I read it doesn't seem that you will have much sitting-at-the-computer time.
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ann freier wrote 09/26/2006 09:01 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #114657 - 09/26/2006 09:01 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	all i'll add is "Good Luck". connie's "the woman"--after you read the links, keep in touch w/your vet. and DON'T be afraid to ask questions!!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/26/2006 09:18 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: ann freier ] #114658 - 09/26/2006 09:18 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: all i'll add is "Good Luck". connie's "the woman"--after you read the links, keep in touch w/your vet. and DON'T be afraid to ask questions!! No, no, all I have are links. I know less than zero about new puppies. Maybe breeders will see this thread........ But I will absolutely help with finding out stuff for questions; I know lots of us will! I second Ann's invitation to ask all the questions you want. There are a lot of people here who can help, with either first-hand knowledge or research.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 09/26/2006 09:42 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #114659 - 09/26/2006 09:42 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	There are a few possible causes of rectal bleeding, I read, and they all need a vet. But you could call the vet and ask for advice about that. I'd call first thing in the morning before they get busy. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Molly Graf wrote 09/27/2006 10:06 AM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: dawn harris ] #114660 - 09/27/2006 10:06 AM
Molly Graf Webboard User Reg: 06-11-2004 Posts: 301 Loc: PA, USA Offline	Dawn, are you stimulating the puppies to urinate/defecate????? If not, then they will all die - you need to do this often, for sure after every feeding, and probably a time or two in the middle too, at first. They can't do this on their own until 2-3 weeks. Warm/damp washcloth, wipe their genitals until they eliminate. Good luck, sorry about their mother. molly
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dawn harris wrote 09/27/2006 01:43 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: Molly Graf ] #114661 - 09/27/2006 01:43 PM
dawn harris Webboard User Reg: 09-26-2006 Posts: 6 Loc: Offline	Yes, I have been wiping them each time I feed them, and I do some in the middle. They do also go on their own, but usually after they have been touched and/or picked up. When I woke this morning this one was gone, and two of the others are now in the same situation. But the other is moving around very well, just whining a little, I think because I have seperated them because of the large mess the blood makes. I was afraid the mess could make him sick. I still feed one of the sick ones, because she still eats. I have a friend who works in the vets office coming over to look at them, but he said sometimes things just happen because that is the way they are supposed to.
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Martin Espericueta wrote 09/27/2006 02:18 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: Molly Graf ] #114662 - 09/27/2006 02:18 PM
Martin Espericueta Webboard User Reg: 02-07-2006 Posts: 109 Loc: Central Valley, CA, USA Offline	Quote: Dawn, are you stimulating the puppies to urinate/defecate????? If not, then they will all die - you need to do this often, for sure after every feeding, and probably a time or two in the middle too, at first. They can't do this on their own until 2-3 weeks. Warm/damp washcloth, wipe their genitals until they eliminate. Good luck, sorry about their mother. molly I haven't much to add - just that I'd like to !!!reiterate!!! how important this stimulation is!!! My Border Collie stim'ed her pups more than just after feeding and a few times in between. Please do this diligently - allot of the time! Even now, just as they turn 4 weeks and are weaning, the mom STILL licks to stim. them occasionally, not that they need it now however. Sorry about your loss. I would be heartbroken if Star died during her labor. I can't wait to spay her! God Bless, Martin Schatzie!
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Janice Jarman wrote 09/27/2006 02:42 PM Re: My baby died having her babies [Re: dawn harris ] #114663 - 09/27/2006 02:42 PM
Janice Jarman Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2005 Posts: 505 Loc: Mid Missouri USA Offline	Lot of good info right here: http://www.leerburg.com/breedingdogs.htm I'm kind of surprised that you haven't been to the vet yet, if the pups are doing poorly and you are worried about them. Especially after losing the mother. Janice Jarman
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