1. What type of clothing have you found usefull to protect yourself during muzzle fighting?
2. The metal bar on the front of an agitation muzzle: Is it just there to keep the shape of the muzzle, or does it help to distribute the impact to the dog?
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002
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1. What type of clothing have you found usefull to protect yourself during muzzle fighting?
IMO you need to vary what you wear when you muzzle fight. I hate seeing people wearing scratch pants and 4 sweatshirts when the do muzzlework. If the goal is to remove the equipment and focus the dog on the man, make it realistic!
I like to wear shorts and a t-shirt in the summer..…. perhaps shorts and no shirt once as a test…. Dress for what you might see on the street. Yes it may hurt a bit getting nail scratches all over you but no one said dog training is suppose to be easy! One of my favorite SWAT sayings is pretty appropriate… “Train as ye shall fight”.
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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Exactly. I use my ballistic vest under a shirt so that its not obvious to the dog. I dont wear any other special protection except the vest at times and thats just to protect my ribs.
Wear shorts & a T-shirt to FIGHT an experienced dog in-muzzle -- You're kidding, right ??? I wouldn't even play-wrestle with my PET Akita dressed like that, unless I wanted to be clawed to ribbons, bruised black & blue all over, or even worse...
What's wrong with long jeans & one sweatshirt, not street-real enough, or not macho enough ?
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What's wrong with long jeans & one sweatshirt, not street-real enough, or not macho enough ?
Machismo has nothing to do with having to trust your life to your dog and the training you provide him. I have to rely on my dog to keep me and everyone I work with safe. If my training fails, my dog fails… and if my dog fails, my co-workers or I could be hurt or worse.
Do we do that every training session? No! Do we do it once a summer for proofing? Yes! You have to know that our dogs will engage in real world scenarios. Better to address a problem earlier that get hurt later or worse… be on youtube.com with everyone watching your dog run along side a suspect.
Um, OK, just wondered -- No dog I've known has ever noticed what anyone was wearing, or NOT wearing, but maybe these many canines have all been the exception to the doggie rule (?) Hmmm actually, I take that back, some alerted to folks wearing Halloween costumes, when they otherwise wouldn't have gotten defensive...
I have watched some nitwits onbase over the years decide to fight a Malinut that was muzzled. And aside from the lack of gashes to thier flesh I did not see much of a difference in the whipping. Getting pushed around, knocked down, chest smashed, and generally toyed with by a 70-80 lb malinut is just not my idea of fun. and I have watched as a Bouvier literally knocked a man out while in the muzzle. No thanks, in this case macho would be BAD, give me all the padding that can be strapped on.
If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking.
Our guys here have worn leather vest under t-shirt or sweatshirt to protect the ribs from a falling impact other than that they have barely any protective clothes other than regular wear. The last muzzle fight exercise we had the dog almost knocked out the agitator with his muzzle to the chin . Not a scratch on the agitator just a broosed face and stars in the air.But I also have seen guys the next day pretty broosed up all over.SOme dogs put on a good fight and some others dance around. Good luck!
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