BiancaYturralde Webboard User Reg: 11-06-2006
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Hello! I have a quick question. I have been fortunate enough to come across leerburgs webpage and glad I did. I recently switched my 16 month GS to a raw diet. I found Ed's sample menu on what he would feed a 65 lb female. I've noticed that when she uses the bathroom her stool is hard and its a small amount. I was curious if this was normal for having her on a raw diet. Anyone want to share or comment. Thanks !
Small stools are very normal on raw. The hard stool comes from the bones in the diet. If it is really hard and she is having trouble passing it comfortably, then you need to cut back a bit on the bone ingredients and add more muscle meat and/or veggies.
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Thank you for replying. Great, What do you mean by muscle meat? I'll start adding more veggies into her diet. I saw your link to your website. Thanks !
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Muscle meat means the non-organ meat that isn't given attached to bones, basically. Like wings would be RMBs, but a chunk of boneless chicken breast meat or beefsteak or hamburger would be muscle meat.
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You had a suggestion on adding apple cidar vinegar to the drinking water to toxify the dog. I find that interesting. How much do you suggest? Any other tips you would like to share? I also have Cadence on Kelp and alfalfa. What else would you reccommend? I know Vitamin C (powder form). What about fish oil? Do you think in pill form or in liquid would be better?
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You had a suggestion on adding apple cidar vinegar to the drinking water to toxify the dog. I find that interesting. How much do you suggest? Any other tips you would like to share? I also have Cadence on Kelp and alfalfa. What else would you reccommend? I know Vitamin C (powder form). What about fish oil? Do you think in pill form or in liquid would be better?
I've read about ACV many times, and only good stuff (for people and dogs), but I haven't tried it yet. I keep forgetting to buy it.
I don't use a C supplement regularly, but that's because my dogs get quite a bit of produce. I would, I think, if I fed a strict prey-model diet. JMO.
My own personal opinion about feeding raw is that variety and fish oil (plus E) might be the most important things to remember once you understand the meat-bone ratio. Variety and fish oil, I believe, give the best chance of covering all nutritional bases. (The fish oil is because long-chain Omega 3 EFAs in modern foods are most accessible to dogs in marine sources; they don't have our ability to convert plant sources like flax into the most beneficial Omega 3s.)
I would skip the alfalfa as many dogs can actually be allergic to it. If you are feeding kelp, you also likley don't need it. Some dogs also have a hard time with flax. If you feed flax you need to feed it in an oil and not the whole seeds.
Apple Cider vinegar is great, however, many dogs won't drink the water with it in it. So, start with a small amount initially and then you can add more.
The oil will also help with the stool. Yogurt is also good to add a couple of times a week. Helps restore bacteria to the gut that it needs (good bacteria). Honey is actually also very good to feed.
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Also, if you decide to use Apple Cider Vinegar, it's important to purchase the good stuff that has the "mother" in it. You can find it at a natural food store. The stuff you get at the regular market is worthless as far as any nutritional value goes.
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