RobbinMann Webboard User Reg: 12-19-2006
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It appears that Schutzhund is the best way for me to get some handling skills. Any advice for getting started? I know bite work is important. How early do I start this? If I get this particular pup that I am looking at he will be 9 almost 10 weeks when he gets here. How much training do you do with a pup that young?
It appears that Schutzhund is the best way for me to get some handling skills. Any advice for getting started? I know bite work is important. How early do I start this? If I get this particular pup that I am looking at he will be 9 almost 10 weeks when he gets here. How much training do you do with a pup that young?
Robbin, have you discussed this question with the person you mentioned - the one you are considering training with? Have you considered ordering Ed's video about raising a working puppy - 8 weeks to 8 months?
Our group under the training direction of Dave Blank encourages people who are brand new to SchH to start bringing the pups out early. Of course with the youngsters, the goals are related more to properly socializing the pups, and learning basically how to "play" with the pups to encourage drives that are invaluable later on. And importantly, people learn what mistakes to avoid with their pups that can diminish the potential for successful SchH work down the road.
But like most things - I'm sure there are very different opinions out there. You should find out the opinion of the person you plan to train with.
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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I don't do anything OB wise till 6 months old, n then only with food, then graduate to using a tug for OB. I play tug from day 1 with a leather bite rag, but you need to know what you're rewarding for and how to play so getting together with an experienced trainer to show you how would be best, or just leave the puppy rag work up to the decoy if you're not sure about it. I believe in taking it slow n letting the pup be a pup, I don't correct for anything around the house, the environment and puppies options are controlled with a crate. Socializing and exposure to different environments is the best thing you can do for a pup, n have the pup watch the older dogs work.
I believe in taking it slow n letting the pup be a pup, I don't correct for anything around the house, the environment and puppies options are controlled with a crate.
This is by far THE biggest mistake we see people make (and many of us HAVE made) with the youngsters!
EDIT: Mike, I just realized that might have come across opposite of how I meant it. Hopefully you know that I agree totally with doing things the way you described - early household corrections and/or OB work are the big problem! (we agree)
Robbin - I'm going back to one of your earlier posts about the SchH trainer you have in mind. I got the impression that based on scheduling or something like that, you might be training privately? That's better than not training - but there is immense value in training with other people. You learn a lot by watching, and listening to the trainer coach others. Just wanted to mention that....
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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Quote: Beth Fuqua
Quote: Mike J Schoonbrood
I believe in taking it slow n letting the pup be a pup, I don't correct for anything around the house, the environment and puppies options are controlled with a crate.
This is by far THE biggest mistake we see people make (and many of us HAVE made) with the youngsters!
What a great answer.. how about explaining your opinion?
Mike - I added an edit to my post as you were posting. After I hit the go button, I realized it probably sounded as though I was disagreeing with you....when in fact, I totally agree with you 100%. Haven't had enough coffee yet I guess! Sorry about that.... I've enjoyed all of your posts and I think we are largely on the very same page.
okay, but what was the answer...lol. I think I got lost
My opinion is:
1) Get Ed's video about raising a working puppy - 8 weeks to 8 months.
2) Talk to the person you plan to train with so you understand that person's philosphy on this matter - then you can see whether that philosphy lines up on some level with the opinions of the experienced people here - including Ed.
3) Go to watch this person's club or training activities as SOON as you can (even before you get your pup).
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