American Humane: Cesar Millan methods "inhumane"
#123293 - 01/03/2007 10:56 PM |
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I have not seen a full show as I don't have cable, but I have seen some clips on the Internet and from what I have seen he gets fast results from (surprisingly) soft methods. Some of the stuff he does seems too good (and easy) to be true.
Cesar sometimes works with dogs that have dominance and aggression problems. I wonder what the people who wrote this letter, would do to correct these problems? They, of course, did not offer any alternatives to Cesar's methods.
Animal Organisation Labels Cesar Milan's Dog Whisperer Style Training 'Inhumane'
The training tactics featured on Cesar Millan's "Dog Whisperer" program are inhumane, outdated and improper, according to a letter sent yesterday to the National Geographic Channel by American Humane, the oldest national organization protecting children and animals.
In the letter, American Humane, which works to raise public awareness about responsible pet ownership and reduce the euthanasia of unwanted pets, expressed dismay over the "numerous inhumane training techniques" advocated by Cesar Millan on "Dog Whisperer."
Several instances which the society considered to be 'cruel and dangerous treatment' - promoted by Millan as acceptable training methods - were documented by American Humane, including one in which a dog was partially asphyxiated in an episode.
In this instance, the fractious dog was pinned to the ground by its neck after first being "hung" by a collar incrementally tightened by Millan. Millan's goal - of subduing a fractious animal - was accomplished by partially cutting off the blood supply to its brain.
The letter requests that National Geographic stop airing the program immediately and issue a statement explaining that the tactics featured on the program are inhumane, and it encourages National Geographic to begin developing programming that sets a positive example by featuring proper, humane animal training. In its letter, American Humane said: "We believe that achieving the goal of improving the way people interact with their pets would be far more successful and beneficial for the National Geographic Channel if it ceased sending the contradictory message that violent treatment of animals is acceptable."
"As a forerunner in the movement towards humane dog training, we find the excessively rough handling of animals on the show and inhumane training methods to be potentially harmful for the animals and the people on the show," said the letter's author, Bill Torgerson, DVM, MBA, who is vice president of Animal Protection Services for American Humane. "It also does a disservice to all the show's viewers by espousing an inaccurate message about what constitutes effective training and appropriate treatment of animals."
Torgerson noted that the safety of a woman and her German shepherd were jeopardized in one episode by the use of an electric shock collar, which forced the tormented dog to redirect its aggression at its owner, biting her arm. "Furthermore, the television audience was never told that Mr. Millan was attempting to modify the dog's behavior by causing pain with the shock collar," he said.
Cesar Milan has enjoyed widespread commercial success with his TV and media career and is currently the most well known animal behaviour expert in the United States.
In Britain, Jan Fennel is known as 'the dog whisperer'. The Humane Society attack on Milan does not draw comparison or reference to Britain's dog whisperer style dog trainers.
Reference: http://www.k9magazine.com/viewarticle.php?sid=15&aid=1521
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#123294 - 01/03/2007 11:02 PM |
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Ugh. This American Humane group sounds like lunatic pita vegan fringe types. Going off half baked about something they obviously have no clue about. Surely, this is not a statement from the American Humane Society?
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I guess they would rather these dogs be destroyed than fixed. Some dogs behaviour require methods a little more extreme than "No No Bad Doggie".
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#123298 - 01/03/2007 11:22 PM |
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Ugh. This American Humane group sounds like lunatic pita vegan fringe types. Going off half baked about something they obviously have no clue about. Surely, this is not a statement from the American Humane Society?
No, it's a different group that (IMO) takes advantage of using a similar name to raise funds from people who think it's the AHS.
JMO.
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#123313 - 01/04/2007 04:17 AM |
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I guess they would rather these dogs be destroyed than fixed. Some dogs behaviour require methods a little more extreme than "No No Bad Doggie".
If they think "No No Bad Doggie" will work why not send round some hardened convicts and they can tell them no no bad boy! And we'll see how well they get on with that approach.
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#123317 - 01/04/2007 07:01 AM |
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Connie, I'm reposting the e-mail addresses you gave for National Geographic on the other thread, in case anyone wants to show support for the techniques Ceaser uses.
Connie - if your have the email address for CM producers and the Discovery Channel - why not poost it so people can email them.
Bottom line is Cesar teaches pack structure. I tell people that obedience training is 20% to 25% of solving most dominance and aggression problems while pack structure takes up the rest.
It's a fact that Ob. training must be done to solve the problem but its a small part of the solution. Much smaller than the vast majority of BEHAVIORST even understand.
Human socierties provide a service in rescuing dogs, but they are certainly not dog trainers. In fact they are a long long way from being dog trainers.
Gladly. (It's National Geographic.)
I sent support with an email that I plugged both National Geographic and the producers in on the "to" line.
MPH (producers) and National Geographic are in close touch, too, as I discovered when I asked a question of MPH about an old episode and received answers from both.
comments@natgeochannel.com
JLMiller@natgeochannel.com
karen.byrne@mphent.com
Also, Connie, in regardes to the e-collar episode, didn't you write to National Geographic about that and they said that Ceaser wanted to explain why an e-collar was being used but they edited it out?
EDITED: The initial quote was by Ed Frawley.
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#123325 - 01/04/2007 08:12 AM |
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Oops, sorry... I must have failed Search 101.
I didn't realise this was a repost. That being said, the article made me so angry, they just bash Cesar and his (humane) methods and have not only no experience to back up their opinion, they don't even offer any suggestions on how they think the problem dogs should be handled. If they get their wish and the Dog Whisperer is taken off the air, it will be one less informational avenue for people to hear about how to properly live with their dogs, and to know the solution to behavioural problems is training, not giving the dog away or euthanizing it.
Doesn't American Humane WANT people to know how to properly communicate with their pets??
Grr.
Again, sorry for reposting.
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#123370 - 01/04/2007 12:15 PM |
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I betcha American Humane wants publicity more than communication. They can easily make a person "choking a dog" into a monster and make themselves look really good by speaking out against it. And then? Viola! Donations to their organization!!
Buttheads, the lot of them.
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#123385 - 01/04/2007 01:22 PM |
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American humane talked about training methods that could be used that are more humane. Cesar isn't training dogs in the sense that most Americans in their mind think of when you say dog training. Cesar is fixing dogs that have behavoiural issues because the owners didn't have a good training regiment in the beginning.
I guess technically he is training the dog, but in reality he is using methods that the dog understands and respects to get the dog to stop its' bad behavour. I say let reps from American Humane try to fix these dogs. Thats something I would pay money to see.
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