12 week old pup protective or jealous?
#123526 - 01/05/2007 09:40 AM |
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Not being familiar with the pup stages of GSDs, is it possible that a 12 week old pup could be attempting to be protective? He hates it when another dog approaches me. He'll ignore them until they come to me, and then he'll put himself between us, do rhythmic barking and sometimes paw them. Then he'll try to jump on me.
I'm thinking it's probably jealousy instead.
Either way, how should I handle this? I do want him protective, I don't want him jealous. I also want him to understand that I decided who I need protection from, but I don't want to squish that drive in him.
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Re: 12 week old pup protective or jealous?
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#123558 - 01/05/2007 05:54 PM |
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Ah, sounds familiar. I chalked it up to dominance; mine still won't allow other dogs near me, and still does the body block to get between us. Try to keep it in check, b/c it can advance quickly to aggression toward the "intruder." Mine used to just be pushy, but now will get quite nasty if the other dog trying to be near me happens to be male.
Don't over-correct him; why not just put him away wordlessly? That's what I do when I won't like what he's gonna do, but when it's not a federal offense, either. Same thing when they get too mouthy; you don't want to punish them, but you don't want your fingers amputated...
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#123563 - 01/05/2007 07:28 PM |
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I don't know that jealous is the correst word, it's more of a posessive behavior and you best cut that out right now.The more you allow him to be posessive the more he will think that you are his posession,,and you're not.Not good in the long run.If he keeps that up, imagine you (in a year) walking close by someone else with a dog on a leash,just casualy crossing path , do you think that your pup/now a dog will be any different ,NO and with power behind the growl and bark and bite.NOT GOOD!
You are his pack leader and he should be as relaxed as you are in any situation that has no threats, period.Make him a well balanced dog , not one that decides WHO can approach and who cant.
You dictate that , not him.If I approach a club member and his puppy is behaving aggressively because I am getting too close or my dog is , he best correct his pup and let him know that htat behavior is not needed and accepted.You let that go and he will get worse and dictate who can approach and who cant and I will tell you that pretty much no one will.
You have agreat little guy make him aware what behavior is important and needed and the ones that are not.Remember , he looks for guidance in you and if you think what he is doing is not good , put a stop and let him know that when he does stop and behaves in a good manner , reward him let him know right away. , be consistant
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#123564 - 01/05/2007 07:29 PM |
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Just to preface, I am a companion dog trainer, not a SCH trainer, although I'd like to think that my standards for excellence are the same as any SCH or sport dog trainer.
In my experience, the looks alone of a GSD are scary enough to most people. You shouldn't permit any behavior as a puppy that you don't want from your adult dog.
You have to understand that it doesn't matter what the motivation is for the behavior, if the consequence is unwanted, correct the dog for it like you mean it. If your dog is a pet, I'd say that barking aggressively at any human is not allowed, period.
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Michelle
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#123571 - 01/05/2007 08:34 PM |
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I'm with Jenni. Just quietly put him up or push him away. Let him know you aren't happy with the behaviour, but don't make too big a deal of it.
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#123573 - 01/05/2007 08:53 PM |
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I think that's pretty much what we said, but you must get your point acroos, if you look at that pups bloodline , you have to know that you go to be consistent and get your point accross no matter how soft or not you have to be ,I have seen 12 week old pups that are very posessive and determand.No matter how you choose to handle it , get your point accross where you see he understands.We have 3 dogs in our club out of troll lineage and they are very high drive and determand dogs,very willing to learn and as a lot of high drive dogs, always testing their handlers....
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#123586 - 01/05/2007 10:58 PM |
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I learned early on that Carbon had to be corrected strongly. He's a hard dog and needs a serious correction (he was very interested in biting my son when he was running) but he doesn't take it personally at all. A simple no isn't enough...he needs touch at this stage because he gets really focused. But he's a really, really happy dog and very, very cool. Easily the best dog I've ever had, even at this early age. Once he gets it, he gets it. I've gotten things out of him as a pup without even trying that I've had to work for from adult dogs.
I still can't figure him out on some levels...he's very contradictory. He's very ballsy at home, certainly trying to always be top dog. But in new places he's the biggest whiner I've ever encountered. Very nervous, biting at my pants leg and jumping up which he never does. I put a lot of effort into socializing him, and still do, but he just whimpers and whines and wants back in the car.
We were actually out when we encountered the other dog that he was protective about (it was a 4 month old pit pup). Mostly he wanted to whine and leave until the dog came to play with me. Totally strange.
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#123593 - 01/06/2007 12:04 AM |
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Just remember he is very young , I know you hear to socialize, socialize,but in small doses is good a that age. The pups that come to our club wil come out for a little bet , put them back in the car then do it again. Ending it with a good experience. Little at a time.Too much for too long is not good, always make it a good experience.And you know too , I have seen where the pups that come to our club will be fine and then start to whine and get anxious or unpatient, most of the time they get tired, or hungry , need a bit of quiet ect... DOn't ever give in to a pup that whines tooo much but make any sessions short for now.
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#123648 - 01/06/2007 04:25 PM |
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I think he's getting better....absolutely dominant, though. Wants every dog to keep his/her distance and expresses that without a trace of fear. I have my hands full with this one! And man I love it!!
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#125245 - 01/18/2007 01:58 PM |
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Amber,
I'm new to this forum but I have a littermate of Carbon's. I have a sold black female and Maya has some of the same behaviors. She's definitely more dominant. But I'm finding that most of that type of behavior is fear based. She will be unsure of something and bark as if she's big and bad. If I reassure her then she calms down and listens.
I had sent you an email yesterday (if I did it correctly on here) because I was really curious how much these two guys had in common. Is carbon in the mouthy biting stage also?
Judy
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