 Teaching fetch, is fetching frustrating!
#124937 - 01/16/2007 02:25 PM |
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Well I followed everyone's advice and started working with "find" and with fetch. Find was awesome! He is so smart and loved it, of course, he's getting treats! When it comes to fetch...he will go after the toy, stop and look at me then come running back because he knows that I have treats. He is very food motivated right now. I put the 20 foot lead on him, expecting to have to coax him a little, since up till now anytime I toss him a toy he will go get it and then find someplace to play with it (away from me). Kind of getting the feeling his is going to be a little toy possesive..i don't know I could be wrong. Anyhow, does anyone have any ideas on how to get him to pick up the ball and bring it back to me, without focusing on my treat bag???!!! 
Other than the obvious...no treat bag. Maybe this is what I should do???
Jay Belcher and Levi
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 Re: Teaching fetch, is fetching frustrating!
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#124941 - 01/16/2007 02:46 PM |
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BE CAREFUL with using food for everything and relying on it for everything. You can use the dog's natural drives to retrieve and hold onto (and tug) objects too.
Put away the food. Start by taking the toy and playing with Levi, tugging with him, letting him win it. Then toss it. When he grabs it, call him happily and pull him towards you (he should ALWAYS be on lead during fetch exercises for a while) and pretty soon you'll have no problem. Food doesn't factor in here. His reward is playing with you and, if he has proper drives then the game is equally if not more rewarding than food. You want to cultivate THIS as a reward in addition to food. You want to be able to work with both or either.
Any questions, let me know.
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#124950 - 01/16/2007 03:42 PM |
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I agree.Especially that he cares more for food than the toy.And if you want him to bring the toy, take the food away since it is a distraction.
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#124951 - 01/16/2007 04:15 PM |
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okay, makes sense to me ladies...I'll see how it goes.
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#124954 - 01/16/2007 04:19 PM |
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okay, makes sense to me ladies...I'll see how it goes.
You know, if you do it right, you can have a dog with a solid enough retrieve that he will fetch you a hot dog on command!
This has been an exercise in PSA competition before...
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#124958 - 01/16/2007 04:41 PM |
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I have no doubt that he would fetch a hot dog...whether it actually made it back to me is the questions, lol
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#124965 - 01/16/2007 05:38 PM |
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Fetch can definitely be frustrating. My grandparents paid me to train their poodle when I was a kid. For some reason, that dog would not fetch for me - but he would for anyone else! I wasn't too flattered. That dog still hates me.  First and only dog I've had that problem with.
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#125026 - 01/17/2007 06:39 AM |
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How about playing "two balls"? I did that with my pup for the longest time (months and months), and when it finally came time to teach a "real" retrieve, it practically fell into my lap. Check this page http://www.leerburg.com/qarecall.htm , and read through the very first question/answer.
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#125028 - 01/17/2007 06:44 AM |
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One of my collies had the attitude, "You threw it, you go it." It used to be hilarious watching him and our Chessie. We'd throw a ball, they'd both go running, Coco would retrieve the ball and then Brady would herd her all over the yard before they'd both come running back to us.
"A dog wags his tail with his heart." Max Buxbaum
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#125042 - 01/17/2007 09:31 AM |
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Hey Robbin,
With my other dog, when he was a puppy I found that if i threw it too far he wasn't interested in it once he got there, but when i kept the distance short, until he got the hang of what I wanted from him, he did much better with returning with the ball. And I mean a short distance, less than a foot...lol. After I had him bringing it back reliably then I just kept gradually throwing it further.
I wouldn't use 2 ball until you have him coming back to you with the ball. Using 2 ball to try and teach him to bring the ball back won't work. That is normally used for a dog that will bring the ball back, but won't release it to you, not for a dog that won't bring the ball back. IMO
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