GARY ROEBUCK wrote 03/11/2007 12:40 PM Spayed Bitches #132694 - 03/11/2007 12:40 PM
GARY ROEBUCK Webboard User Reg: 03-07-2007 Posts: 3 Loc: NORTHUMBERLAND . ENGLAND Offline	Have any members had any experience of bitches losing their drive or working abillity after being spayed. I would be interested in anybodies thoughts or comments on this subject Thank you
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Carol Boche wrote 03/11/2007 01:01 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: GARY ROEBUCK ] #132696 - 03/11/2007 01:01 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	I would have to say that I have not had too many issues except for the spayed females I work with can work all year and the males stay calm and my intact bitch does not work as well (she works, just not as well) plus it affects the males, intact or not. SO I leave her home and work the other dogs. And also the spayed females seem to tend to be heavier even with the same amount of work. (These dogs are ALL high drive, working dogs....do not know if it is different for "pets" but I would assume not) Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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GARY ROEBUCK wrote 03/11/2007 01:14 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: Carol Boche ] #132698 - 03/11/2007 01:14 PM
GARY ROEBUCK Webboard User Reg: 03-07-2007 Posts: 3 Loc: NORTHUMBERLAND . ENGLAND Offline	The dog I am refering too is a working Border Collie, she was spayed at 11 months old before she came into season, she seems to tire easily we have had her checked by a vet,but nothing was found.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/11/2007 01:34 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: GARY ROEBUCK ] #132703 - 03/11/2007 01:34 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: GARY ROEBUCK The dog I am refering too is a working Border Collie, she was spayed at 11 months old before she came into season, she seems to tire easily we have had her checked by a vet,but nothing was found. I checked every source I have and found zero link between lack of stamina and spaying. I would probably be asking about blood work, unless you mean she was just spayed recently and might be still recuperating. JMO.
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Sarah Morris wrote 03/11/2007 01:41 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: GARY ROEBUCK ] #132704 - 03/11/2007 01:41 PM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	I remember reading somewhere that an animal's metabolism drops dramatically (like within 48 hours) and significantly following spay/neuter surgery. What I can't remember from that article is if they were talking about dogs or cats or both. True
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/11/2007 01:53 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: Sarah Morris ] #132706 - 03/11/2007 01:53 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Sarah_Morris I remember reading somewhere that an animal's metabolism drops dramatically (like within 48 hours) and significantly following spay/neuter surgery. What I can't remember from that article is if they were talking about dogs or cats or both. I will look more.
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Jenni Williams wrote 03/11/2007 02:09 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #132710 - 03/11/2007 02:09 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	There's a school of thought that believes it affects the way they respond to their environment (instinctively) since they're lacking hormones that dictate much of their behavior. It's thought that they simply don't have the drive to do some of this work, like tracking, after altering, due to the loss of hormones and subsequent change in this instinctive behavior. I don't have any saved links on this, and it's a pretty hard thing to prove, but if you can't find another reason, it may be something to ponder. Anything's possible, I guess. Do bloodwork and check thyroid; thyroid can be a big issue in neutered animals. If you're thyroid is out of whack, you don't feel like doing much of anything. May be something to look into.
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Mara Jessup wrote 03/11/2007 03:18 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: Jenni Williams ] #132721 - 03/11/2007 03:18 PM
Mara Jessup Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2005 Posts: 2316 Loc: Offline	I'd ditto the thyroid check. I had my Border Collie spayed when she was 6 1/2 y/o. The only difference I noticed was a lack of moodiness that came with her heat cycle. She's almost 8 y/o now, and her drive, energy and work ethic are still very high. Her metabolisim didn't seem to change much either, but she tends to ba a very active dog. K-9 Knitter
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Kai Degner wrote 03/12/2007 03:43 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: Mara Jessup ] #132868 - 03/12/2007 03:43 PM
Kai Degner Webboard User Reg: 02-27-2007 Posts: 4 Loc: Las Vegas, NV Offline	I spayed my female GSD at about 11 months old. She is still a working fool and will work for me until I give out. She does great obediance and is starting her protection training, and as far as I can tell she will be a very "Go Getum" dog. She also still loves to track, getting her nose down and following the scent trying to find her treat. One other nice side effect to her being spayed is that she was a true psyco when she came into heat. She would attack almost anything and even thought she could challenge me. The vet said getting her spayed would even her out a bit, but should not effect her work, since she is such an extremly active and high drive dog. Syn: Norse Goddess, and one great GSD. Goddess of Legal Defence. SYN will find you out!
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 03/12/2007 10:24 PM Re: Spayed Bitches [Re: Kai Degner ] #132920 - 03/12/2007 10:24 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Don't know about border collies in your situation, but I notice in protection training, a female spayed young tends to remain kinda like a puppy mentally. They will work, but a female needs usually 3 heat cycles to balance out into proper maturity n if you don't let them have those then they will stay behind mentally. While they still work, I do notice the different behavior.
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