 chicken gizzards as main diet
#132718 - 03/11/2007 03:12 PM |
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does anyone here have exprience feeding with chicken gizzards and hearts as main meat source?
itry tham on my 17 yrs old mal and she loved tham and they are very easy for her to eat and diggest - no llitele bones she can swalow if she eat to fast and no to much fat.
she eat ground meat too but she like the litlle bloody piaces better ithink...
igot tham easy avilable too.
what do you think?
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#132789 - 03/12/2007 01:49 AM |
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I feed gizzard , hearts and liver too, everyday and they love it and it is very nutritious.I think with your female being that she is older ,she still needs some bones and some muscle meat .Maybe not bones every single day, but I would not take it out of her diet completely.I do the whole prey model, my dogs get a liver everyday.They look good and are healthy..
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#132811 - 03/12/2007 07:58 AM |
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she still get her bones mostly large bones like sheep bones with some meat on but they are more like atoy for her, she still can take care of awhole chicken or turcky and im very proud that she still can do it and enjoy it at 17 years old of age but its more like an execrise for her than nutrition ilet her have it like you said once in awhile when the sun come out and ican leave her outside for awhile.
ithink iwhould follow your advice and her life standart and stick to it.
what whould you say the best ratio of muscle (long ones not flat (like heart) to inter parts for adog in that age ?
your dogs in the picture do look good and healthy!
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#132814 - 03/12/2007 08:41 AM |
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Sefi - chicken gizzards and hearts are a very acceptable muscle meat - my dogs love them too and they are a main part of their diet. I agree with Angelique, however, that your senior lady still needs bones in her diet. You mentioned giving her chicken and turkey. Do you feed them to her whole or in parts? Perhaps you could cut them up and give a portion to her at a time. She should get some bones at least once a day. If not, can you substitute fish or mackeral, egg shells, and/or bone powder?
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#132823 - 03/12/2007 09:26 AM |
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Sefi, first I have to say my jaw dropped when you said your Mal was 17 years old !!!! WOW, that is so great!
I feed chicken gizzards (and liver, but that's an organ), but not as the main meat source so can't speak to that. Is this something you're just beginning to do or have you done it for a while? I'd like to know how and what you've been feeding her all this time, it must be a wonderful model. I've never had a dog that lived past 14 years 
The fact that your Malinois is 17 speaks a lot for what you've fed her and the life you've given her. Now that she's 17 I can understand being more concerned with her digestive system. Since you said she can handle the bones in the chicken and turkey, I would continue trying to get some form of bone for her when she doesn't get the whole chicken. Like Jan said, maybe bone powder, mixed with the ground beef? I know that egg shells (for the calcium) are sold in powder form also.
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#132836 - 03/12/2007 10:57 AM |
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what whould you say the best ratio of muscle (long ones not flat (like heart) to inter parts for adog in that age ?
About 5 to 10% organs compared to all the rest of her meat, is how I do it.
If she's getting no real bones, I'd add poultry backs or egg shells or even bone powder rather than none at all.
Congrats on your senior's age and health. I have had a dog live to 18, but not a big one. I am impressed. Happy for you both, too! 
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#133042 - 03/13/2007 01:54 PM |
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Connie thank you for the information and links.
ithink il keep give her the ground bones on regular base and the wholes chickens or parts of tham from time to time.
Jan
the egg shells is somthing igaved alot as adition to birds and prey birds chicks inever thouth to give it to dogs is new idea to me fell free to share more info iwill also search for it in the forum pages.
Sandy about sita iwhould love to tell you that sita lived her whole life on raw diet but it wont be the trouth she was my dog at the army (saved my life afew times) so she lived most of her life on adry food...
allthou you can add abit of credit to her raw diet as civilian dogs as her main couse of health couse she live more than her fellows k-9s that where about her age and died afew years ago...
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#133328 - 03/15/2007 08:12 AM |
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I feed my dogs organs (gibblets) and chicken leg quarters as a main diet, ocasionally I'll buy cow hearts and soup bones with a lot of meat. Also whole eggs are good. I'll feed between 2% and 3% of their body weight, but I generally see how they look. If they're getting too fat I'll reduce and viceversa. Also I'll do one fasting day to mimmick what happens in nature. A good site to learn from is Tom Lonsdale's http://www.rawmeatybones.com/ . It's also important to notice the difference between leisure bones (that could actually break teeth) and edible bones.
Brutus ZVV1
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#133336 - 03/15/2007 08:38 AM |
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Just my own personal fussiness with technicalities - giblets do contain the liver (organ), heart, gizzards and neck (all muscle meat). If you meant you feed gizzards and leg quarters, be sure to add in a little bit of organ meat (liver and/or kidineys). If you truly meant giblets (with both organ and muscle meat), then I would say you are fine.
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