If you want to see a sad example of stupid dog training watch this clip. The person that is the fool here is not the handler - he is only doing what he is being told to do.
The real fool is the INSTRUCTOR in the background that is running the training.
This is just about the dumbest thing I have seen in a long time. I would really like to have seen the puncture wounds in this handlers arms after this training.
Sandy Moore Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2006
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I've seen that video before and it makes me mad, seeing that dog being slammed to the ground, and so violently. Someone needs to rescue that dog. I'm still trying to figure out what the hell the dog did. Too bad dogs don't have the option of just flat out refusing to work for idiots.
Are K9 trainers open to other K9 trainers' opinions on the handling of their dogs? Maybe one of you guys could call the idiots.
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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The dog must suck to not maul the handler for doing that.... n the fact that the dog isn't trying to maul the handler tells me the dog doesn't need what they think the dog needs to begin with.
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This is what happens when a handler loses his cool. The handlers' actions are over the top for the minor nipping offense. I don't know this dogs' background but if it was trained to aggress on a weapon weilding appendage then that should have been known, and addressed prior to any firearms training. The handler also should have previously tested the dog to see what it would do upon hearing gunfire. If there was a problem it should have been fixed before gunfire training. Wonder if they ever heard of a muzzle?
So that's what a high drive dog looks like in the wrong hands. Shocking- common sense goes right out the door when some "train" a dog.
One guy in the comments said "if you wanna see real police dog training, look up Frred.Has. sit means s1t site"
(edits for search, you know which site I am talking about.)
-- what another joke. I think they are on about the same level. (?)
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This has been floating around for a long time now.
I wouldn't berate the handler over this. He is obviously following instructions that you can hear in the background.
I can see how this evolved, "hey, I have a problem" sort of thing and the part they are addressing is biting at the handler but the use of the alpha roll, in the context of teaching a skill is wrong (I question its efficacy in most if not all situations as it related to working dog training myself).
The instructor should have stepped up and said that this is a problem to tackle in smaller parts and in a diferent context.
Law enforcement inherits huge problems through the aquisition process and we have to be great problem solvers. Our peers accross the pond often don't deal with them and sport people just get the dogs off their backs by selling them.
So, being hard on a struggling handler is really not the thing to do here.
I have seen this video before also. Only one thing I have to say about it... That dog is never going to listen/learn/obey that handler and will likely turn on him at the wrong time and personally I would love to see it happen, to the guy that was telling the handler what to do. The "instructor" has no idea what he is doing at all, I'm a novice to intermediate trainer and I could see that the dog wasn't being trained the was he should have.
That k-9 instructor should have a prong collar put on his neck and he should be tossed around like they did to that dog. Obviously that handler does not have much brains also to see that what he was doing was not working. This is the first time i have seen this video and it really ticks me off.
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